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  • jdw641 hour ago
    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;microsoft&#x2F;azure-quantum-tgp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;microsoft&#x2F;azure-quantum-tgp</a><p>```<p>return xr.apply_ufunc(<p><pre><code> lambda x: (x - x[::-1]) &#x2F; 2, conductance, input_core_dims=[dims], output_core_dims=[dims], vectorize=True, </code></pre> ) ```<p>Reading the article about how they filtered and cherry-picked specific regions, I got curious about the actual asymmetry computation, so I looked up the source code. Looking at it, they seem to have used memory offsets as if they were physical coordinates, but they&#x27;re only looking at the array index order, not the actual values. x[::-1] isn&#x27;t measuring physical coordinates; it&#x27;s just reversing the array. So it seems this bias axis mentioned in the article only forms when things are symmetric. But in typical numerical computations, isn&#x27;t it pretty common to reverse arrays like this? In this case, there must be a reason why the physical coordinates change. Should we be verifying invariants here? Sometimes I see people who find these kinds of issues and I think they&#x27;re really amazing. Even after reading the article, tracing it, and debugging it, I kept wondering what the problem was..
    • simonw15 minutes ago
      On Hacker News you can indent code samples with two spaces, like this:<p><pre><code> return xr.apply_ufunc( lambda x: (x - x[::-1]) &#x2F; 2, conductance, input_core_dims=[dims], output_core_dims=[dims], vectorize=True, )</code></pre>
  • frollogaston1 hour ago
    Was pleasantly surprised to see the exact bug in here, in a &quot;The Register&quot; article of all places. Legg showed that fixing the bug invalidates the research. Seems Microsoft is responding to a clear problem with a vague dismissal.<p>Edit: Oh, The Register is a true tech paper, guess the name makes sense for that. Got mixed up cause there are a bunch of general papers called something Register.
    • dekhn1 hour ago
      The Register is a tech paper that is modelled on various British tabloids (daily mail, the sun). Sometimes it&#x27;s humor, sometimes it&#x27;s real news and occasionally they even break a new story.
      • rtkwe22 minutes ago
        I always find it hard to remember which of the British publications are real and which are pure trash. Usually they reveal it pretty quickly with the writing though.
      • secretsatan5 minutes ago
        I wouldn’t say it was modeled on that trash, rather they poke fun at them, eg, the term boffin is obviously used tongue in cheeck
      • frollogaston1 hour ago
        Haha, they got me. Was mostly thinking &quot;The Daily Register&quot; which doesn&#x27;t exist, but Daily Mail does.
  • mjhay1 hour ago
    You’d really think they’d really check everything and cross their t’s after their previous issues in marjorana fermion QC. I generally have a very high opinion of MS research, but this is getting a bit embarrassing.
    • rvba41 minutes ago
      Looks that the next step of this &quot;project&quot; is selecting a patsy and blaming all on that one sacrificial person
      • Ifkaluva27 minutes ago
        I guess the thing to do is see who wrote the critical code segment… oh wait, it was AI, lol
  • Isamu38 minutes ago
    When I see “boffin” in a title I think “The Register” so kudos I guess.
  • gadders1 hour ago
    Love the word &quot;boffin&quot;. I think we should use &quot;pundit&quot; more often as well.
    • Anthony-G1 hour ago
      As soon as I saw this word, I guessed that El Reg was the source.
    • happytoexplain1 hour ago
      I was surprised to see it - I thought &quot;boffin&quot; was good-natured but highly irreverent, like &quot;nerd&quot;. But I can&#x27;t imagine any publication writing the headline, &quot;Computer nerd claims Microsoft&#x27;s supposed quantum leap does not compute.&quot;
      • wiml1 hour ago
        &quot;Good natured but highly irreverent&quot; is pretty much <i>The Register</i>&#x27;s house style.
      • gh02t42 minutes ago
        To be fair, &quot;boffin&quot; usually implies someone has relevant (usually scientific) expertise, but nerd doesn&#x27;t. Henry Legg has the relevant credentials to give weight to his claims, he&#x27;s not just some random basement nerd.
      • SAI_Peregrinus1 hour ago
        The Register is highly irreverent, as a rule.
      • cpncrunch1 hour ago
        It&#x27;s typical of the Register. They always use the word &quot;boffin&quot; for expert&#x2F;scientist. It&#x27;s a british word used to describe a clever person.
        • MobiusHorizons1 hour ago
          Roughly interchangeable with egg head I think, although more used and slightly more endearing.
    • sensanaty1 hour ago
      Completely unrelated but I&#x27;m always sad that Umbra, Penumbra and Equinox aren&#x27;t used very often in day-to-day speech, very cool sounding words.
      • devin34 minutes ago
        Also, adumbrate.
  • rdtsc1 hour ago
    &gt; boffins willing to go on the record as describing Microsoft&#x27;s work as &quot;unreliable&quot; and perhaps even &quot;fraudulent.&quot;<p>&gt; Microsoft insisted its work is sound and in early June 2026 announced Majorana 2, a &quot;next-generation topological quantum chip&quot; it developed with the help of its own agentic AI.<p>AI hallucinates quantum computing bullshit as well or better than humans can hallucinate quantum computing bullshit. Couldn&#x27;t have a better combination of technologies helping each other out.
    • frollogaston1 hour ago
      The kinds of bugs really look like human mistakes more than AI
  • ck230 minutes ago
    Majorana fermion and Ettore Majorana are fascinating<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Majorana_fermion" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Majorana_fermion</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ettore_Majorana" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ettore_Majorana</a>
  • josefritzishere1 hour ago
    Is it premature to assume it&#x27;s due to AI Microslop?
    • teshier-A27 minutes ago
      Unless if you list AI as a co-author, people are still responsible for the code they ship. Whatever tool was used to write said code
  • smartformulapro1 hour ago
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    • frollogaston1 hour ago
      I don&#x27;t think research papers normally come with a simple portable way for others to rerun the calculations. At some point the code is complicated enough to be impossible to just proofread without running it.
      • TaupeRanger1 hour ago
        Pretty sure you responded to an AI bot, looking at their comment history.
        • fennecbutt1 hour ago
          And the structure of their sentences, unless they&#x27;re doing that on purpose for some reason
          • frollogaston1 hour ago
            Ok I don&#x27;t normally call &quot;bot&quot; but yes it is. &quot;It&#x27;s not a sentence – it&#x27;s a DSL&quot;
      • brumbelow1 hour ago
        Yeah I would say that the &#x27;some point&#x27; is frontier quantum research. Which makes it even more confusing as to how something like this is not caught.
      • m4gr4th341 hour ago
        I actually have been fiddling with something like this. Self publishing on GitHub, numbers that are run in real time. If code can be open-sourced, I think research can start to be. I started using linux in 2019, and honestly, though I don&#x27;t use it now (windows-turned-mac man, sigh), open source is a solid concept.
      • jMyles1 hour ago
        &gt; I don&#x27;t think research papers normally come with a simple portable way for others to rerun the calculations.<p>...which, for situations where a readable&#x2F;narrated test suite is entirely possible, is awful.
        • m4gr4th341 hour ago
          I actually created a template to make research dossiers to do exactly that on GitHub. it works, and self hosts, and has a DOI, and blockchain timestamps... I&#x27;m a quantum physicist that left academia cause it was too slow for my taste, and I think the technology is here now for open-sourcing science research.
        • frollogaston1 hour ago
          Research code is stereotypically awful