9 comments

  • jonathantf231 minutes ago
    I played with HaLow for a while but the only stuff I could get here in the UK was some undocumented crap from AliExpress, anything more robust looking only seems to work in the US. A shame because it’d solve a infrastructure challenge I have to juggle each year
  • bcrl9 hours ago
    MANET is one of the protocols I was involved in implementing for a certain network protocol suite back around 2012. Mesh routing protocols only work for the most limited of use cases. They don't know about the capacity of the underlying wireless network and basically fall apart when things are congested or there are radios with poor reception. QoS is implemented far better in modern cell phone networks, and if the routing protocol doesn't take QoS into account, it's gonna suck.
  • EvanAnderson12 hours ago
    In case anybody is like me and didn&#x27;t know what Wi-Fi HaLow is: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;IEEE_802.11ah" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;IEEE_802.11ah</a>
  • hexmiles2 hours ago
    All modules seem to be us-only. Is there a modules usable in eu frequency?
    • pantalaimon1 hour ago
      The airtime restrictions make it pretty much useless in the EU
  • easygenes13 hours ago
    This guy has been promoting and hacking hardware around this project heavily the last few months: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=550fh2n5rUs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=550fh2n5rUs</a>
    • coreyw12 hours ago
      That guy is not contributing to the open source project.
      • victorbjorklund11 hours ago
        Which is why OP says ”around” the project? Never claimed he is a contributor to the code.
  • topazas1 hour ago
    In Europe still struggle.
  • esafak12 hours ago
    MANETs: back from the dead!? The problem is not the hardware, but the software; apparently, nobody can think of a killer application.
    • bb8812 hours ago
      Meshtastic has been popular, but relies upon a terrible implementation of a mesh -- and it&#x27;s vastly oversold on its capabilities.<p>I understand some hams run a meshtastic repeater primarily to convince meshtastic users to become hams.
      • aeblyve11 hours ago
        It&#x27;s worth commenting to me that MeshCore performs much better than Meshtastic at scale and as an emplaced deployment. We have a very active network of about 60 nodes in the Boston area which feels similar to iMessage in deliverability and speed.<p>But yes, it can&#x27;t realistically be compared to something like a &quot;real&quot; MANET system with $10k radios that can do something like 100mbps data rates. It is dramatically more accessible and deployable though.
        • kragen10 hours ago
          Real MANET systems are not defined by their bit rates, but by their ability to take advantages of whatever opportunities for radio communication exist in a given situation.
      • ianburrell11 hours ago
        LoRa has tiny bandwidth. Enough for text messaging if not too many people use it.<p>HaLow has lots more bandwidth, 433Mbps max, which allows for proper networking. It can bridge to other networks. But the practical range is only 1km. Also, the radios are expensive while LoRa is cheap.
      • nativeit11 hours ago
        I feel like a HAM license is something of an inevitability of my future, although I don’t have any practical need for one. Catching satellite signals in my backyard is a lot of fun.
        • bityard10 hours ago
          I think most hams (myself included) are the type of people whose favorite hobby is collecting more hobbies. Plus, ham radio pairs nicely with tons of other hobbies like electronics, kit building, hiking, solar power, space weather, and (as you say) satellites. I highly recommend it.
        • bigfishrunning11 hours ago
          I felt the same way a few years ago, and got my license in 2023. I still don&#x27;t know why, but I don&#x27;t regret it either. There is a ton to play with in that space, if you&#x27;re a tinkerer I absolutely encourage you to start studying the license materials. You never know where it&#x27;ll take you.
    • harporoeder12 hours ago
      The killer application in this case is ATAK.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Android_Team_Awareness_Kit" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Android_Team_Awareness_Kit</a>
      • kylixz7 hours ago
        If anyone wants to help make MANETs better with TAK… check out opportunities on ditto.com where the team is building crdts and using them to help enable SAR. Say Turner sent you in your application if it looks interesting. Particularly the FDE role.
      • wakawaka2810 hours ago
        Is ATAK even useful to civilians? Is it trustworthy?
        • adrianpike10 hours ago
          Yes and yes, we&#x27;ve used it for civilian Search &amp; Rescue in tandem with CalTopo.
        • gh02t9 hours ago
          I use it for hiking, its great.
          • Yossarrian228 hours ago
            How do you use it for that?
            • BertoldVdb4 hours ago
              It is an offline moving map with very fancy marker etc support. Seems a good choice for a hiking app?
  • grendelt10 hours ago
    &gt; This technology is especially useful in the civilian space for search and rescue, disaster response, airsoft events, and any disconnected communications scenario.<p>Airsoft?! Huh?
    • kragen10 hours ago
      Radio communication is a critical advantage in actual infantry fights, so it makes sense that it would be useful for cosplay infantry fights.
  • speransky11 hours ago
    I use MorseMicro in 802.11s mode successfully, just openwrt stuff, any reason to try this project ?
    • jrexilius11 hours ago
      Last time I played with Moremicro they didn&#x27;t work with real 802.11s and had some hokey proprietary hierarchal tree topology that required a main basestation gateway. ad-hoc, peer-to-peer was broken. They finally fixed their driver?
      • wryun3 hours ago
        The tree mesh thing you&#x27;re thinking of is actually just EasyMesh (it&#x27;s a standard!). We&#x27;re using prplmesh.<p>But yes, 11s Mesh also works. Let us know on the forum (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.morsemicro.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;community.morsemicro.com&#x2F;</a>) or via github (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MorseMicro&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;MorseMicro&#x2F;</a>) if you&#x27;re having issues. Err, I work for Morse in case that wasn&#x27;t clear.
      • speransky11 hours ago
        I believe yes, give them other try, my scenarios with one connected station and mesh on drone platforms works out of the box