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  • stmw2 hours ago
    Pilot forum discussion - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pprune.org&#x2F;rumours-news&#x2F;674910-us-wide-ground-stop-nov-13-a.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pprune.org&#x2F;rumours-news&#x2F;674910-us-wide-ground-st...</a>
    • AstroNutt45 minutes ago
      Thanks for the link. I clicked it and was greeted with this. LOL!<p>&quot;It seems the shiny new AI tech tool Strategic Management of Airspace Routing Trajectories (SMART) may have become Failed Airspace Routing Trajectories (FART)&quot;
  • frutiger2 hours ago
    &quot;Frequency outage&quot;, I think that translates to radio communications not working, until &quot;22 Zulu&quot; aka 22:00 UTC, 5 PM ET.
    • lenerdenator2 hours ago
      How does one prevent transmission on a frequency in an area the size of the continental US?<p>It&#x27;s radio. Either you jam it or it works. That&#x27;s the selling point.
      • NordSteve2 hours ago
        It&#x27;s not the transmitting per-se. The network that gives controllers access to the en route radio system isn&#x27;t letting them connect to the radios.
  • DavCreator2 hours ago
    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xnotme.com&#x2F;flightradar24&#x2F;status&#x2F;2121347654714077605" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xnotme.com&#x2F;flightradar24&#x2F;status&#x2F;2121347654714077605</a>
  • treebeard9012 hours ago
    Microsoft outage related??
    • whynotmaybe1 hour ago
      I can easily imagine a batch job on a mainframe that sends every hour some important data by mail and that some logic apps checks that mailbox to propagate the data but now that mails have been delayed +12hours it&#x27;s going haywire
    • PsycorAI2 hours ago
      good question
  • datas3 hours ago
    What are all the possible reasons to do this?<p>Has this ever happened?
    • tencentshill3 hours ago
      A credible threat from Iran? More likely a technical issue.<p>Happened in 2023 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;faa-notam-statement" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.faa.gov&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;faa-notam-statement</a>
    • ceejayoz2 hours ago
      Jan 2023 was the most recent nationwide one.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;11&#x2F;faa-orders-airlines-to-pause-departures-until-9-am-et-after-system-outage.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;01&#x2F;11&#x2F;faa-orders-airlines-to-pause...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;2023_FAA_system_outage" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;2023_FAA_system_outage</a>
    • NooneAtAll51 hour ago
      previous time it happened right before chinese baloon made the news<p>it may be something similar - remove all random, but controllable sources of radar return for military to start scanning
    • lobf2 hours ago
      It happened on 9&#x2F;11, didn’t it?
      • stmw2 hours ago
        yes, 9&#x2F;11
        • Jtsummers2 hours ago
          And in 2023, which was more similar to this. This is a <i>departure</i> stop, planes in the air are still heading towards their destinations. This is not the same as 9&#x2F;11 where flights were redirected to their nearest airports for immediate landings.
  • throwaway8152342 minutes ago
    &quot;If builders built houses the way programmers built programs, the first woodpecker to come along would destroy civilization&quot; -- Gerald Weinberg.<p>Looks like the woodpecker has arrived.
    • elendilm31 minutes ago
      I disagree vehemently that programmers build lousy programs. Many of us do quite the contrary.<p>But this is hilarious, and hence I am upvoting.
  • cobychapple2 hours ago
    Looks lifted now. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fly.faa.gov&#x2F;adv&#x2F;adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&amp;advn=111" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fly.faa.gov&#x2F;adv&#x2F;adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&amp;a...</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fly.faa.gov&#x2F;adv&#x2F;adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&amp;advn=116" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fly.faa.gov&#x2F;adv&#x2F;adv_otherdis?adv_date=11132026&amp;a...</a>
    • brianshaler2 hours ago
      If you refresh a few times it&#x27;ll show the advisories.
  • ChrisArchitect2 hours ago
    Some more discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50489641">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50489641</a>
    • razor-thin2 hours ago
      [flagged]
      • fhdkweig1 hour ago
        Why? I came into this thread just to make sure someone posted that link. I hate when the discussion gets fragmented across several different posts.
      • seviu1 hour ago
        +1 ban it and with it the 30k+ Karma it has
      • cactusplant73741 hour ago
        Dang does that too. I guess we are going to have to ban him as well.
  • pstuart2 hours ago
    I guess some of their floppy drives must have given out.
    • 1011100150 minutes ago
      &gt; I guess some of their floppy drives must have given out.<p>More likely: the reengineered system has a serious bug.
  • deadbabe32 minutes ago
    This has been a horrible week for AI: Jensen resigned, Microsoft Outage, now FAA outage from new AI system.<p>The reason is clear: all this points to the ANT ipo next week, people want to pop the AI bubble.
    • afavour23 minutes ago
      1. There’s no proof yet that this is AI related<p>2. The idea that someone would ground all air traffic in order to disrupt Anthropic’s IPO is an absolutely wild conspiracy theory with no basis in reality
    • mcdonje22 minutes ago
      What a cope. Per occam&#x27;s razor, the most likely cause is putting hallucinations on the critical path. But sure, peddle a conspiracy theory.