There's this little part of me wondering if this was all known about for a long time, and the sudden release of information about all three women is coordinated for some nefarious business reason.
Whitehouse knew it months ago… why is it coming out after election? Not sure how it would have impacted it beforehand.
Powerful men cheating is often normalized in their immediate environment. Jensen was seen with both women many times. It's the Chinese spy and export ban skirt angle that made it untenable.<p>Cf. the open secret nature around the entire Epstein cabal.
If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.
It's true of kitchen-ant comments as well: <a href="https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=kitchen%20ant&sort=byDate&type=comment" rel="nofollow">https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...</a><p>We have to figure out where this comes from! It's so recent: <a href="https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=%22two%20ants%22%20kitchen&sort=byDate&type=comment" rel="nofollow">https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...</a><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49828285">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49828285</a> references <a href="https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535</a> - that's the earliest I've seen so far. Others?<p>Edit: thanks ChatGPT: <a href="https://barrypopik.com/blog/there_is_never_one_cockroach_business_adage" rel="nofollow">https://barrypopik.com/blog/there_is_never_one_cockroach_bus...</a><p>Proverb #232 of <a href="https://www.asau.ru/files/pdf/2759983.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.asau.ru/files/pdf/2759983.pdf</a> says it's attested from 1991:<p><i>232 There is never just one cockroach. (1991)</i><p><i>Variant: There is never just one cockroach in the kitchen</i><p>Ants are nicer though.
Warren Buffet said the cockroach variant in his 1989 investor letter.<p><a href="https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1989.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1989.html</a><p>"In a difficult business, no sooner is one problem solved than another
surfaces - never is there just one cockroach in the kitchen."
Possibly Nathan Calvin on Twitter in August: <i>If you find two ants in your kitchen, the best estimate of the total number of ants in your kitchen is not two</i><p>August 5th about Open AI:<p><a href="https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535</a><p>September 4th.. still about Open AI:<p><a href="https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2095854095139537064" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2095854095139537064</a><p>November 11th.. Alex Lawsen on Twitter, referencing Nathan's post (above):<p><a href="https://x.com/lxrjl/status/2120640689620861335" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/lxrjl/status/2120640689620861335</a>
Completely tangential but I always find it interesting how different expressions become attached to specific contexts in people's heads.<p>"This old house as got good bones" is the realtor 'slaps roof of car' meme that seems to have caught on during the 2010s and peaked during COVID. Now I hear people mindlessly propagating it whenever they talk about renovating/buying an old home.<p>I'm sure that we'll be hearing this ants in the kitchen of the house with good bones thing forever now.
If the ant in your kitchen IPOs the same day you are evicted from your kitchen, the spies in your kitchen are not Chinese.
> If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.<p>And Jensen Huang may have had an improper relationship with at least one of them.
listening to the verge?
There is an obvious pattern for these high level executive roles. They are all workaholics, they are not particularly loyal, they all have loose moral compasses, they don't have any clear line between work and their personal life, and they treat relationships like business arrangements.<p>This feels so common that I would not even be quick to assume this is some sort of unknown betrayal to his family. One of the revelations about the Gates' lives was that Bill's promiscuity was apparently baked into their marriage agreement. At this level, your marriage might just be like a fixed mailing address for someone who has multiple homes.<p>Not to excuse this in any way. But these are the personalities of medieval lords and kings.
"I want a man with a short shirt, and a Huang jacket"<p>----<p>I hope that the people he had affairs with are treated ok and not retaliated against or hounded by the world news media.
This seems like a coordinated hit, slowly releasing more and more information. What's really going on?
One affair always brings up other affairs out of the closet. Same rule goes for harassment and abuse claims.<p>That’s what is going on.
The better metaphor is "where there's smoke, there's fire."<p>Three different news orgs have reported the different affairs.
Yes, one investigation begets others. Also, high profile witnesses come forward voluntarily once the screen is lifted on any unrelated investigation, but not typically before.
"where someone benefits from the fire, there's arson"
Here it seems the dude was just lobbling molotov cocktails at his own house until people started to notice. The conspiracy, if there is one, is what other folks who knew beforehand got out of him before it was made public, not why everyone is now pointing out shit is on fire for him.
This happens all the time with news stories and doesn't require conspiracy theories. Once an initial story breaks, other journalists investigate (if they weren't already). No doubt Nvidia started investigating internally and employees will have leaked the findings.<p>There isn't really even any point in this third story from the point of view of any "coordinated attack". He's already resigned.
just to diversify this subthread a little, i actually do see the perspective: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50476972">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50476972</a><p>tbf, these side affairs i think are more just people piling on
Correlation isn’t causation always. Once there’s a scandal, more people start digging, and the more they dig, the more they find. The news cycle continues rewarding more information, so you keep getting more.
Are you serious? He had multiple affairs is what's going on. Including one with a spy. And people who wouldn't be believed before are now coming forward.<p>There's probably some mildly interesting risk-balancing that happened behind the scenes because the intel community apparently knew mid-2026 and only spilled the beans now, but this is entirely of Jensen's own doing. He confessed.<p>He clearly is a top performer, though, managing four-plus relationships is a big job.
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Posting that link is truly pointless.<p>You understand that the AI labs in the US have taken a lot of money from thousands of investors. They don't benefit whatsoever in losing their investment to powerful open weight AI models that undermine closed weight ones especially chinese AI models that are rapidly catching up to them.<p>Nvidia was investing the open weight model ecosystem after realizing that the AI labs were moving off of their GPUs and using in-house chips. Jensen made sure that some Chinese AI labs were getting Nvidia GPUs in order to slow them down in relying or building their domestic ones.<p>Why would someone who invested a lot of money into any of the >1TN+ AI labs accept the risk of a chinese AI lab undermining them in their future IPO plans?
As I’m sure you know it can be both true that Jensen was getting side pieces like it was going out of style, and also be true that this is a coordinated hit. Note that the media for instance isn’t racing to investigate the strange sex lives of Anthropic senior leadership.
> Note that the media for instance isn’t racing to investigate the strange sex lives of Anthropic senior leadership.<p>Thus far, there's no evidence Anthropic was knowingly violating sanctions on China, nor did they donate $25M to the Trump ballroom project while doing so.
It can also be true that this is the exact pattern you see with powerful men.<p>Because, the powerful men can hide things for a long time, right up until they are no longer powerful.<p>That's like the entire point of #MeToo. Women are very upset with how much <i>known</i> misbehavior was going on that was kept hush because the men involved were in positions of power, and people preferred keeping that power structure stable over literally putting people doing sex crimes to justice.<p>What you are seeing is that when women feel like they will be listened to when they come out with a story like this, they will.<p>That, and there's also the simple effect of "A rich person is suddenly getting dragged through the media, perfect time to share your own gossip if you have some"<p>You can't blame this on a conspiracy when such simple incentives will cause the same phenomenon, and we have ample examples of exactly that happening.
> This is the worst case of a classic blackmail operation against Jensen and it is highly co-ordinated with major news outlets like the NYT, WSJ, The Economist and FT.<p>Jensen was already being blackmailed by the Trump administration for the past year, which Trump all but admits openly here:<p><a href="https://youtu.be/m2aC8lAOQbg?si=rqqSliGdLF4_Q663&t=1460" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/m2aC8lAOQbg?si=rqqSliGdLF4_Q663&t=1460</a><p>@24:20 if the link doesn't maintain the timestamp on your platform.<p>He doesn't name Jensen, but in hindsight with everything that has come out (including information on the timing of the Rubio memo) he is obviously talking about him and threatening him with jail to become a yes-man, and Jensen complied.<p>So IMO the real question isn't who was blackmailing Jensen (we know that), the question is: when he was <i>already</i> complying with blackmail for a year, who decided to burn him as an asset? Did it come from the people who were blackmailing him, or an external source? And who gains/loses by the loss of leverage they already had on him?
> What's really going on?<p>A lesson, apparently, for everyone asking "what the big deal is".<p>If ever you wanted to understand the meaning of the word "liability", here it is.<p>"Coordinated hits", as you put it, have as their prerequisite the creation of a "liability".
Journalism plus circumstances loosening tongues and reducing the downside of being truthful.<p>As the British police are fond of saying in cold case appeals: allegiances shift.
journalists pumping their sources
Dont mess up with the intelligence community. He should have talked more to Jack Ma.
Entrapment, they (FBI, whatever) knew about the "spy" and yet didn't go like ... "Hey Jensen, we gotta tell you something..." Pathetic.
It's weird, right? You see the same thing in police investigations. Oh, they know some things early, then, later, release more information? We're not that dumb.<p>When a real scandal happens, everything we know or will ever know gets dropped all at once. Anything else and you know someone is pulling the strings. The question is who? My money is on the arrow of time.
>> What's really going on?<p>A shell game. This is the distraction portion. Then comes the switch, the reveal and the swipe. Watch the market indicators. Nobody buying and selling shares in a trillion-dollar company cares one iota about extramarital affairs. Something else is happening.
They might not care about affairs, but they are probably interested in the possibility that Nvidia circumvented US export controls, is being covertly influenced by China, and so on
As it turns out, Huang was a fallible human being.
Is this common at the board level of major companies and uncommon to get out? Or is this really uncommon.
feel bad for his wife man, has to be rough to keep seeing this
TIL: True monogamy only appears in 3-5% of mammals in the animal kingdom.
When you see two ants in the kitchen there's likely many more.<p>Huang has been a great boss and steward of Nvidia, but ultimately falling for subordinates is grave enough, adding alleged Chinese spies, and allegations you sold Tencent billions of hardware through shady Singaporean companies for which the alleged spy worked etc and the board had no other options.<p>At this point it would be surprising if what we know is likely a small part and the Nvidia board saw enough very quickly to ask for his head.
There's no need to look. Jensen Huang might have been great for his shareholders, but he sure has been screwing the rest of us over hard.<p>He was responsible for hanging consumers out to dry by destroying the consumer PC market in chase of more profit. He is gambling with the world economy. He appears on interviews being a dick about all of this.<p>So I'd say this is very much in character for him.
All the irrelevant ant kitchen posts really drives home the dead internet theory.
I would if he went to bed everything realizing this is how it could all end?
Is it so bad? He founded one of history's most successful companies in one of the most exciting sectors on the planet and ran it for 33 years. He's 63.<p>The only thing that would actually be bad is if his wife left him, which we don't know is happening yet. Some women accept the "risk" (to put it tastelessly) of marrying a hundred-billionaire, and stick it out.
Depends on what he values, I don't think I'd be any happier with 150bn than maybe 100m, they're both large enough that I couldn't possibly see myself spending it. Not with this specific case, but I often see people saying/implying people must be happy because they're rich/founded a successful company/achieved something great/<insert desirable thing here>.<p>I guess people often think the things they imagine making themselves happy would make someone else who has that happy, and I just don't think that's the case that often. I don't think money buys happiness after a point, a certain amount gets rid of a lot of discomfort and stress and brings relief and security, a bit more can buy some happiness, after that it's just number go up.
Who was that comedian that said something along of "I'd rather be depressed in an Rolls Royce than in a Honda"... Money doesn't buy happiness, but it removes the worry of where you are going to sleep tonight.
Exactly, a lot of people (especially those who have plenty of material wealth) focus much more on legacy. Here we're watching Jensen's legacy turn into that of an incompetent and possibly a traitor, on top of being morally bankrupt. That can't feel good. It will color everything he has ever said or done, I'm sure you can find plenty of his quotes that will now seem ridiculous.<p><a href="https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/jensen-huang-quotes" rel="nofollow">https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/jensen-huang-quotes</a>
Despite not being a full subscriber to the "death of the author" concept, I do think we tend to ironically lean a little too petty/unrelated in our criticisms of big names when we discover their sexual sins, and I think this is an example of that. Yes, I'm sure you could find some quotes in there that are hypocritical given his sexual conduct, but I can't find one on an initial review. I think sometimes this can kind of harm the legitimate criticism by association.<p>I say this as somebody who has never had any admiration for this guy (not because of a specific grievance, but because I don't follow tech leadership and am generally pessimistic about them).
You're 1) projecting that it is my opinion, and not my estimation of public opinion; and 2) seemingly unfamiliar with how most people think - "we" do not lean toward anything but laziness, and this is how lazy thought works.<p>That being said his early life is crazy enough that a movie could save him. Lazy thinking is fickle, after all.
For sure, he's probably deeply unhappy about his legacy. I just mean "this is how it could all end" implies something a little more dramatic than that. While money doesn't buy happiness after a certain amount, it does buy the satisfaction of supporting your future generations. And that's not even to mention what he built.
He's an engineer. He spent his life building engineering marvels, and creating tools to help others build engineering marvels.<p>He's also spent his life building a large, very influential company.<p>Could it be that those are the things he values?
> The only thing that would actually be bad<p>Would be investigation ending in jail time.
At the current rate of disclosure Huang is going to be revealed to have had an affair with every woman in the world by 2038. It’s vital that we build out infrastructure to support this if we don’t want to be left behind.<p>At least we’ve now passed the tipping point where the majority of affairs are domestic. Some country out there is going to achieve HSM (Huang Second Marriage) and it’s vital to future prosperity that we make sure it’s the US.
"Claude, build me a website that tracks with whom Jensen Huang had an affair yet! Register the domain hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with and treat GETs on subdirectories as names for queries, like hasjensenhuanghadanaffair.with/JaneDoe should display whether he had an affair with Jane Doe."
sigh, another 2038 problem to solve.
I don't who the 3rd affair will be with, but the 4th one will be with sticks and stones
That is it...I am buying a leather jacket!
One affair is a scandal.<p>Two affairs is a pattern.<p>Three affairs is just funny.
Bill Gates had a similar pattern
One relationship per GPU core.
There are memes about... running SLI <wink wink nudge nudge><p>And frankly at this point, where nothing surprises you anymore we should probably just enjoy some stupid pictures with captions
Parallel execution in action
Amateur. Tiger Woods had at least 9 extramarital affairs.
stop it!! he's already dead!!<p>in all seriousness though, what is going on? everything here feels well timed and coordinated. were the powers that be just waiting for US midterms to pass? is there any relationship to the anthropic IPO? my tin foil hat is going to be working overtime these next few days
Plenty of benign explanations without needing tinfoil<p>- The affair(s) were so badly hidden that they became obvious once one was exposed<p>- High profile CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world means a lot of eyes<p>- something akin to the Streisand effect keeps things in the news cycle
The initial story about the spy dropped on October 29th, before the midterms.<p>At that point it was probably just a matter of time until the rest came out.
I mean it’s just much more of a favorable political environment for the board to investigate Huang. And journalists know that if there’s smoke, there’s likely fire. So it seems like a pretty natural pile-on if anything.<p>It is kinda weird that Jensen decided to resign so quickly though. I would’ve expected a longer investigation period involving both the board and Congress.
Jensen has had a heck of a ride, fastest rise and fall we've seen in a while. Looks like he didn't handle the attention very well.
Fast fall, yes, but his rise has been years in the making.
Having a cushion of $145B he won't be hurt from the fall.
California is a community property state. Lori is about to take control of her half of that in 3, 2, 1...
Sure, but jail time for bypassing the export ban can definitely make it harder to use the money. Then again, given his affiliation with the POTUS he probably won't get jail time.
I thought attention is all you need.
Parrots another article - even w ", Report Says" as the end of the headline.<p>The original article is from Reuters, partially written by this woman below whose history is all Washington stories then bam 4 articles on Nvidia and tech.<p><a href="https://www.reuters.com/authors/alexandra-alper/" rel="nofollow">https://www.reuters.com/authors/alexandra-alper/</a><p>Appears to be manipulated news (which we're used to), story is real but should be seen through that lens - why?
(This must have originally been posted to <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50473868">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50473868</a> - we've since merged the threads.)
It all lining up perfectly with their quarterly earnings call does seem like a bit of a strange coincidence at the very least.<p>These are also not actually new developments, but years old. So they could have easily been stockpiled ahead of time, ready to deploy when opportune. Or maybe that's just standard when you're high profile enough? It's like accumulating and strategically burning 0 days. Or trading them for that matter.<p>Or at least the original report was like this. These newer ones are perfectly well explained by opportunism imo, if one is to believe that the anonymous sources really are company internal.
Who gives a damn who he is having an r-ship with. It's 2026.
I can't believe Jensen Huang popped the AI bubble with his d*ck...
Look, what happens between a billionaire CEO, three consenting adults, and a Singaporean shell company is a personal matter that should not concern us<p>- Hacker News
I mean he's the boss of a GPU company, no surprise he's having affairs in parallel.
At how many $billion of market value should a board just figure that it's a cost of doing business to hire retired spooks to keep track of the CEO's personal life, and ensure that he has a pipeline of well-paid, background-checked, NDA-signed mistresses available to divert his eyes from the employees and spies?
To a certain point I don't really care about how many subordinates it ends up being (something tells me there are more), but it does make all of the grindset quotes CEOs like Huang barf up all the more laughable.<p>> “I work every day. There’s not a day that goes by that I don’t work. And if I’m not working, I’m thinking about work.”<p>> “I wake up at 5am, and the moment I wake up, I start working… I’m asleep probably by 9:30pm.<p><a href="https://www.startuparchive.org/p/jensen-huang-there-s-hard-work-and-then-there-s-insanely-hard-work" rel="nofollow">https://www.startuparchive.org/p/jensen-huang-there-s-hard-w...</a><p>A lot of people have said Nvidia are crazy to get rid of Huang, that he's a singular irreplaceable talent. What if, perhaps, he's not all he's made out to be?
There are <i>three</i> "I"s in NVIDIA (latin)
These AI slop chinese soap-operas are so good...
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