16 comments

  • benwills28 minutes ago
    I noticed Fable decline in quality a couple weeks ago. And I&#x27;ve noticed Opus drop over the last week, even after bumping to a default of Extra High reasoning for almost everything.<p>Tonight has been maddening with the kinds of absurd mistakes it&#x27;s repeatedly making. It&#x27;s so frustrating.<p>I&#x27;m the kind of person that wants something to be consistent and reliable. And Anthropic has been great, except for in this way. Which is enough of a recurring frustration (about every couple months this year) that I genuinely can&#x27;t wait for other options to catch up. Then I&#x27;ll be leaving as soon as I can.<p>I just don&#x27;t know how long that will be.
    • jdcasale19 minutes ago
      I&#x27;ve been using Fable for a couple months as a relatively independent, long-horizon task executor and it worked well. About two weeks ago it completely stopped working. Like ~85% success rate down to ~10% in my workflows.<p>Totally possible that I&#x27;m just hallucinating&#x2F;projecting&#x2F;etc or my workflows somehow changes in terms of difficulty, but it&#x27;s been kind of shocking.
      • cromka7 minutes ago
        I have the same exact experience. Working on one project, brainstorming. It was brilliant in July and August, like a seriously smarter, more experienced version of myself, reading in my mind, one step ahead of me, when pointed out a mistake it would remedy on the spot with the exact brilliant solution.<p>Now it&#x27;s like talking to my hungover self, after 3 days bender, who just wanted to be left alone.
  • tsukikage5 minutes ago
    LiveNerf suggests not.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ninjahawk&#x2F;livenerf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;ninjahawk&#x2F;livenerf</a>
  • shikck20023 minutes ago
    Token use exploded a week or two ago. I worked for a few hours and hit my 5 hour limit. Did only some simple bug fix. Somethings definitely broken.<p>This is the #1 thing i HATE with LLMs. They are not predictable like a compiler is.
    • cromka6 minutes ago
      It&#x27;s not LLMs! Its their providers! If you self-hosted, you&#x27;d observe the slow down but you&#x27;d get same quality.
  • xbmcuser6 minutes ago
    From what I understand they are picking and choosing who is running the latest models. So nerfed yes but for you not for everyone
  • ghoul237 minutes ago
    Definitely a significant change. I noticed it in just daily work. Quality of work down, mistakes up, repetitive errors in scripts - rare earlier, now a few every session.
  • xscott55 minutes ago
    With open weights, YOU get to decide when the model changes.
    • beebmam41 minutes ago
      Not true at all, there&#x27;s much more to a model than its weights.
      • digitalPhonix37 minutes ago
        Like?
        • phyalow13 minutes ago
          Thinking budgets…
          • digitalPhonix5 minutes ago
            In the context of this question, that&#x27;s still something you as the user control.<p>Specifically<p>&gt; YOU get to decide when the model changes
      • xyzsparetimexyz35 minutes ago
        Yeah obviously but you can still control it.
        • f6v6 minutes ago
          You can still control it if you can trivially spin up a node with eight B200s and 2TB of memory to run your Deepseek v4 instance. Nobody on a subsidized plans is doing that. Local models that fit 128GB memory don&#x27;t come close even to a &quot;nerfed&quot; frontier model.
  • Retro_Dev1 hour ago
    As one user pointed out:<p>&gt; I noticed this too as did many others. Had to bump my default reasoning but it’s not the same. Seems to often happen before new model drops<p>I heard that Qwen4 was dropping some time soon, I wonder if Anthropic is trying to announce a new model immediately after Qwen4 - both for their IPO, and to kill the competition.
    • Gareth32120 minutes ago
      This has happened to consistently across OpenAI and Anthropic models that I can&#x27;t believe people are still denying it. Obviously they&#x27;re silently quantising their models or making other efficiency changes. If they can save 40% RAM and only hurt intelligence by a few percent in their benchmarks, they&#x27;re going to do that. Unfortunately their benchmarks are obviously not representative of the real world, and these downgrades are very noticeable for people who rely on these models for work.<p>Of all the reasons to look at local inference, this is the one which pushes me in that direction the most. I want to rely on a model for consistency in my workflows. If I wake up on Monday and suddenly it&#x27;s refactoring things it built on Friday, that&#x27;s a huge problem. That makes it unreliable.
      • fastball16 minutes ago
        I guess the question really is: is this malice (trying to trick people into thinking new model is better by nerfing old one), or is this capacity constraints, where they obviously need to make room in their infra for inference of the new model by shoving the other models into a smaller box?
        • timschmidt3 minutes ago
          Little of column A, little of column B.
      • grey-area12 minutes ago
        These machines are inherently unreliable.
  • tammyselvi28 minutes ago
    not as bad as sol 6.1. im getting better results out of glm 5.3
    • cromka5 minutes ago
      I was down voted into oblivion when I said that 3 weeks ago. Both Codex and Claude are absolutely nothing compared to what it was.
  • peri-cl10 minutes ago
    Eagerly awaiting Artificial Analysis to redo their Anthropic benchmarks and kick it down 15-20 index points, in the interests of accuracy. Those guys love accuracy. They moved Heaven and Earth to kick Kimi off the #2 spot, out of their deep, abiding passion for having the most accurate benchmarks in the industry.<p>I have no doubt they will ensure their users get an <i>accurate</i> picture of Opus 5.5 within hours.
  • terminalcommand1 hour ago
    I am using Opus 5.5 high almost exclusively. I definitely felt this and looked for nerfing watch sites. It felt like downgrading to the old version of deepseek. Things have improved a bit now.
  • listedb28 minutes ago
    It&#x27;s dumbing down a little bit but I don&#x27;t think its a lot worse. I think the change in display adds to the feel
  • davidd_100418 minutes ago
    Seems fine to me
  • sunaookami57 minutes ago
    It&#x27;s just a new summarizer, the model and performance itself is umchamged.
    • kolinko46 minutes ago
      +1, this tells nothing about the quality. Or even whether this is an upgrade or downgrade.
  • hebelehubele47 minutes ago
    They&#x27;re preparing to release a new model, so it has to look better than the current one.
  • Giorgi53 minutes ago
    Yes, I noticed it too, dumbing down continues, there goes their IPO.
  • FastDeep6 minutes ago
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