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  • hbarka3 hours ago
    Globalstar is a study in corporate survival. It lives on while its 90’s cohort Iridium didn’t make it.<p>Consider the journey:<p>2002: Bankruptcy.<p>2007: Satellite amplifier failures threatened its voice service.<p>2010–2013: A replacement constellation helped restore capacity.<p>2022: Apple&#x27;s iPhone Emergency SOS gave Globalstar a major new purpose.<p>2024: Apple committed approximately $1.5 billion in investment and infrastructure funding.<p>Now: This acquisition by Amazon would bring Globalstar&#x27;s satellite assets and spectrum into Amazon&#x27;s competition with Starlink, while preserving satellite services for Apple devices.<p>Iridium has a museum: iridium museum.com
    • diek2 hours ago
      Iridium exists today, refreshed their constellation with Iridium NEXT just a few years ago, and was just bought by Rocket Lab for $8 billion.<p>(disclaimer: my Dad worked there for years)
      • gumby1 hour ago
        Fun Iridium trivia: it was originally designed to need 77 satellites, hence the name. By the time they deployed they’d figured out they’d only need 66, but for some reason didn’t change their name to Dysprosium.
        • Slartie33 minutes ago
          This kind of trivia can be discovered in the very interesting and entertaining book &quot;Eccentric Orbits: The Iridium Story&quot; by John Bloom. Highly recommended read (if you&#x27;re generally into tech&#x2F;business&#x2F;startup chronicles)!<p>And while you&#x27;re at it, read &quot;Chip Wars&quot; by Christopher R. Miller as well. Extremely good read to understand tomorrows&#x27; most relevant geopolitical conflict.
      • asa1232 hours ago
        the person you are responding to seems to have massively massively downplayed iridium then….
        • paimapi1 hour ago
          And they have: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;telecom&#x2F;rocket-lab-buys-satellite-operator-iridium-in-bid-to-challenge-spacex-d3a35be7?eafs_enabled=false" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;telecom&#x2F;rocket-lab-buys-satelli...</a>
        • ganoushoreilly1 hour ago
          Surprisingly they&#x27;re profitable, but still saddled with a lot of debt. I know to people over at Iridium that have stayed through the past 15 years or so. They have a niche they&#x27;re serving that seems stable for now.<p>I half expect Amazon to keep making acquisitions to try and accelerate their satellite efforts. I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s a net negative thing, there&#x27;s so much more we can do.
          • monster_truck1 hour ago
            There are countless niches like this in telematics, one of the only industries I&#x27;ve encountered where a seemingly established company will be doing a &quot;Series K&quot; round, typically as a means to buy or build out the infrastructure they need for whatever customer.
    • jandrewrogers1 hour ago
      The Iridium constellation(s) are very much in active use. They transitioned their business model from pure communications to RF remote sensing. They are among the leaders in some markets for RF remote sensing platforms. AFAIK the businesses in these markets do not use the Iridium name, which makes sense given it is a historical telecom brand.
    • giancarlostoro2 hours ago
      &gt; 2022: Apple&#x27;s iPhone Emergency SOS gave Globalstar a major new purpose.<p>I wondered who it was that Apple was using for that but never looked into it. Was it for any particular reason on Apple&#x27;s part other than it probably saved them a bundle compared to going with literally anyone else? Or is there something else I&#x27;m missing? Just curious. I wish I could be a fly on the wall for some of these corporate events nobody thinks too much about.
      • kotaKat59 minutes ago
        Globalstar&#x27;s technology over everyone else. They&#x27;ve just been crude bent pipes up in the sky. They <i>still are</i>. C-3 is just a bunch of new radio repeaters.<p>Globalstar&#x27;s original network was just CDMA over the bent pipe satellite link, their second-gen Duplex network (sold as Sat-Fi 2) was an attempt to go WCDMA, then Apple dangled a <i>lot</i> of cash at them to build out and drop the entire Sat-Fi 2 product, the entire WCDMA core, and go roll Apple&#x27;s new toys out for them. I&#x27;m assuming C3 is going to be heavily LTE-based if it isn&#x27;t already at this point.<p>(I had a Sat-Fi 2 device and it was an interesting and short-lived experience. I was also there for the weird interim 201x satellite failure era - I remember having to pull up the Optimal Satellite Availability Tool to go see exactly how many long ~2-10 minute windows I could make phone calls in with a GSP-1600.)<p>((Double-fun-fact: The GSP-1600 is still actively used on Globalstar today, and it&#x27;s one of the only tri-mode phones that existed of the era. It was satellite via GSTAR, then had CDMA for local calling and AMPS for the sticks. I had my GSP-1600 activated on a Verizon MVNO for local calls, which was a blast to use.))
    • mikestew1 hour ago
      <i>It lives on while its 90’s cohort Iridium didn’t make it.</i><p>Garmin inReach users will be disappointed to hear that: <i>“inReach devices use the Iridium satellite constellation, which forms a mesh with 100% globe coverage.”</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Garmin_inReach" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Garmin_inReach</a>
    • jareklupinski2 hours ago
      walmart has a museum too<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visitbentonville.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;stories&#x2F;post&#x2F;the-new-walmart-museum-experience&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visitbentonville.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;stories&#x2F;post&#x2F;the-new-w...</a>
      • PyWoody2 hours ago
        This is giving me real Severance <i>Perpetuity Wing</i> vibes.
        • pnt122 hours ago
          You&#x27;re not lying.<p>&quot;The wait is finally over—the Walmart Museum is back and better than ever!&quot;<p>&quot;This video series is intended to be updated as time goes on, so go ahead and come back on your next visit to experience more messages!&quot;
          • marcosdumay9 minutes ago
            &quot;The floor also features the Hologram Theater, where Sam Walton himself shares his story&quot;<p>I&#x27;m wondering if the show writer used it as a reference.
    • cubefox2 hours ago
      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iridiummuseum.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iridiummuseum.com&#x2F;</a>
    • cubefox2 hours ago
      &gt; 2002: Bankruptcy.<p>Why wasn&#x27;t this the end?
      • handwoven2 hours ago
        Bankruptcy doesn&#x27;t mean that assets will be destroyed. Valuable assets (including satellites, brand etc.) will be sold off to new owners, and the proceeds go to the lenders.
      • piker2 hours ago
        Two types of bankruptcy in the U.S.: liquidation and reorganization. The latter lets a company reshuffle assets and debt and schedule new payment plans to continue to exist as a going concern. It often wipes out shareholders.
      • insane_dreamer1 hour ago
        in the US corporate bankruptcy allows the company to restructure its debts.<p>case in point: the three largest airlines in the US have declared bankruptcy at some point: United, Delta, American
    • martinky242 hours ago
      What? Doesn’t iridium exist?
      • huhtenberg2 hours ago
        It does. That is until its acquisition by Rocket Lab completes in 2027.
  • interloxia3 hours ago
    The link didn&#x27;t work for me.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;media-telecom&#x2F;us-agency-approves-amazon-leos-115-billion-acquisition-globalstar-2026-10-27&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;media-telecom&#x2F;us-agency-app...</a><p>US agency approves Amazon Leo’s $11.5 billion acquisition of Globalstar By David Shepardson October 27, 2026
    • uxhacker3 hours ago
      This link works, on the original I am getting a 404
      • esseph3 hours ago
        The original duplicates the path<p>Here&#x27;s the link:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;media-telecom&#x2F;amazon-signs-1157-billion-deal-satellite-firm-globalstar-challenge-starlink-2026-04-14&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;media-telecom&#x2F;amazon-signs-...</a>
  • joecool10292 hours ago
    The news is that the FCC approved the acquisition. It was already announced back in April that Amazon would be purchasing Globalstar. I don’t think anyone expected it to be held up by regulators.<p>Edit: proper link to it <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;media-telecom&#x2F;us-agency-approves-amazon-leos-115-billion-acquisition-globalstar-2026-10-27&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;media-telecom&#x2F;us-agency-app...</a>
  • Eden093 hours ago
    Previous discussion about the deal on HN (119 comments): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=47775183">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=47775183</a>
  • arlattimore36 minutes ago
    Starlink have over 11,000 satellites in orbit.<p>Globalstar have 24 satellites in orbit (at least according to Google).<p>How does this acquisition by Amazon meaningfully expand Leo to compete against Starlink?
    • RealityVoid30 minutes ago
      Pre-existing infra, designs and know-how?
    • sempron6427 minutes ago
      Spectrum and IP, probably.
    • wil42126 minutes ago
      Maybe spectrum.
  • prirun1 hour ago
    From <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.globalstar.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;resource-center&#x2F;articles&#x2F;bandn53-a-frequency-to-call-you-own" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.globalstar.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;resource-center&#x2F;articles&#x2F;ba...</a><p>Band n53 adds premium midrange spectrum to the premium performance of XCOM RAN. As midband spectrum, it provides a balance of speed and coverage for 5G with download speeds up to 250 Mbps and upload speeds up to 100 Mbps, wider coverage than millimeter-wave frequencies and greater efficiency than lower bands for better throughput. If you run the wireless networks that run the world, the combination of band n53 and XCOM RAN is a marriage made in heaven. Learn more in the Terrestrial Wireless section at www.globalstar.com.
    • philistine1 hour ago
      You&#x27;re not supposed to publicly acknowledge the existence of XCOM ;)
  • SeanAnderson1 hour ago
    Kind of an interesting acquisition, no?<p>Why is Amazon interested in Globalstar? The first thing that comes to my mind is like... Amazon&#x27;s lowkey business model is &quot;pick unsexy, logistics-heavy areas and just Do The Work better than others until a niche is carved out.&quot;<p>And from that POV I think the acquisition makes sense, but I&#x27;m not sure how this benefits the existing constellation of Amazon IP. Is it more like an attempt to have a relevant AWS-like play but for satcom because they see demand in that area growing a ton? Okay sure but is Globalstar really getting you that unlock?
    • fedpost39 minutes ago
      Much like their customers, I suspect Amazon themselves don&#x27;t actually ever do anything other than buy random shit they won&#x27;t ever use...at least on the space side. I know a bunch of people who work out at the cape and it sounds horrid.
    • MarkWayneNewton23 minutes ago
      global drone network. governments will pay far and wide for access.
    • mobelkh1 hour ago
      they&#x27;re already knee deep with LEO&#x2F;kuiper(?)
  • paxy3 hours ago
    The deal was announced in April. It just got FCC approval.
  • jedbrooke1 hour ago
    I bet this is about about acquiring spectrum rights or something
  • sebmellen3 hours ago
    404 for me
  • gkanai3 hours ago
    How does Globalstar&#x27;s offering compare to Starlink?
    • nonethewiser3 hours ago
      9.6Kbps<p>Not a joke
      • cj2 hours ago
        That&#x27;s their legacy product.<p>2nd gen is 256 Kbps
      • jandrese3 hours ago
        Au Contraire, that bandwidth is definitely a joke.
      • AdamN3 hours ago
        Does it also make modem sounds??
      • hylaride2 hours ago
        The spectrum and various other rights are probably worth more than the current kit.
      • cmiles83 hours ago
        Well that’s more than most people can get out of Leo today so it’s a start!
      • gizajob3 hours ago
        9600bps ought to be enough for anyone.
      • fred_is_fred2 hours ago
        That&#x27;s enough bandwidth to play Trade Wars and SRE so it&#x27;s good enough for me.
    • toolcocoon1 hour ago
      i would think that globalstar is specialised in IoT and Starlink more as an extention of the cellular coverage.
  • ChrisArchitect44 minutes ago
    Previously in April:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=47775183">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=47775183</a>
  • kotaKat3 hours ago
    On the same note: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;investors.globalstar.com&#x2F;news-releases&#x2F;news-release-details&#x2F;fcc-authorizes-globalstars-third-generation-c-3-system" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;investors.globalstar.com&#x2F;news-releases&#x2F;news-release-...</a><p>The new direct-to-device network Amazon is getting their hands on is now approved and live on the air.
    • jauntywundrkind1 hour ago
      &gt; <i>the C-3 System will comprise 48 low Earth orbit satellites operating at an altitude of 1414 kilometers along with 6 in-orbit spares, supported by approximately 90 six-meter ground station antennas installed around the world</i><p>Just fyi, LEO is up to 2000km &#x2F; 1200mi. But this is still double Starlink altitude. And multiple orders of magnitude less satellites.
  • sourcecodeplz1 hour ago
    if you can&#x27;t beat &#x27;em, join &#x27;em
  • aboardRat43 hours ago
    Just use Thuraya or Inmarsat.
  • hnisjafx402 hours ago
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  • krylonmae2 hours ago
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  • 0xy2 hours ago
    Every satellite internet provider other than Starlink is complete garbage. Slow, unreliable, useless.
    • neals2 hours ago
      Those are very absolute statements. And mayeb you&#x27;re not aware, but if you notice people pulling away from you in conversation or it&#x27;s difficult for you to maintain longterm, deep, relationships, it might be partly because of the way you express yourself. And it probably comes from a good place, you might just want to warn people to not go through whatever bad experience you had. But it is a very one way type of communication. It doesn&#x27;t allow anybody except those that agree. But those that agree won&#x27;t agree on some other big statement and you&#x27;ll still resent each other.<p>Just something to think about as you navigate the challenges of social interactions. The best to you.
      • esikich2 hours ago
        Do you have experience in satellite Internet? I do, and he&#x27;s not wrong. Your snarky comment is off topic and isn&#x27;t adding anything here, imo.
        • neals1 hour ago
          It&#x27;s OK to not agree,that&#x27;s how we progress. Everybody can be wrong too,and we shouldn&#x27;t be afraid to be vulnerable.<p>Now, how could a satellite service be useless? And what many people don&#x27;t understand, is that if somebody that is using it (as thousands of people are) hears that, it might be hurtful. It comes down to calling somebody &quot;dumb&quot;. And the statement doesn&#x27;t invite anybody to come up with arguments. No, most people would walk away from a discussion. Avoid this person with his big ideas. This is how society is individualized and how we fail to understand each other.<p>I also believe that it comes from a good place, like actual &quot;advice&quot;. I&#x27;ve been giving my little snarky comment to about 20 people. Most of them were open to it, changed their style a little and the workplace became some much more pleasant.
          • esikich1 hour ago
            Maybe you&#x27;re not aware, but if you notice people pulling away from you in conversation or it&#x27;s difficult for you to maintain longterm, deep, relationships, it might be partly because of the way you express yourself. And it probably comes from a good place, you might just want to warn people to not go through whatever bad experience you had. But it is a very one way type of communication. It doesn&#x27;t allow anybody except those that agree. But those that agree won&#x27;t agree on some other big statement and you&#x27;ll still resent each other.<p>Just something to think about as you navigate the challenges of social interactions. The best to you.
            • neals49 minutes ago
              Thank you for letting me know, I have not noticed, as you can see, I&#x27;m open to criticism and friendly. And pleasant to be around.
        • JumpCrisscross48 minutes ago
          &gt; <i>he&#x27;s not wrong</i><p>Ku band gives Starlink a run for its money on planes. And if I’m backpacking, Starlink is worthless. These are real contexts where Starlink isn’t competitive, a category set to grow in the coming years with new launches and regulations. (Anything you do on Starlink should be presumed to be open to warant-free inquiry by the American and Putin regimes at this point.)
        • actionfromafar58 minutes ago
          An Iridium Go is small and light enough to throw in your backpack, so it was&#x2F;is a different kind of product.
          • arlattimore20 minutes ago
            I imagine it won&#x27;t be long before we&#x27;ll see the next gen from Starlink:<p>Starlink Standard (fixed) Starlink Mini (portable) Starlink Pocket (ultra-portable)