13 comments

  • divbzero13 minutes ago
    ‘Else’ is not commonly used in English today but the meaning does fit. From Webster’s (1913):<p><i>Else, adverb or conjunction</i><p><i>1. Besides; except that mentioned; in addition; as, nowhere else; no one else.</i><p><i>2. Otherwise; in the other, or the contrary, case; if the facts were different.</i><p><i>“For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it.” – Ps. li. 16.</i><p><i>After ‘or’, else is sometimes used expletively, as simply noting an alternative. “Will you give thanks, … or else shall I?” – Shak.</i>
  • stkdump37 minutes ago
    The modern universal keywords if, else, for and while are good because they are fairly short and thus quick to type.
    • divbzero1 minute ago
      Yes, <i>otherwise</i> is more natural but less terse.
  • pram20 minutes ago
    Don’t even get me started on “elif”
  • fcarraldo47 minutes ago
    If something were to be true, then foo.<p>Or if this other thing were to be true, then bar.<p>If it’s something else, then baz.
  • bitwize31 minutes ago
    No. English has used <i>else</i> to mean &quot;otherwise&quot; since before computers came along. Wiktionary offers this quote from <i>Call of the Wild</i> (1903):<p>&quot;He had never seen dogs fight as these wolfish creatures fought, and his first experience taught him an unforgetable lesson. It is true, it was a vicarious experience, else he would not have lived to profit by it.&quot;<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wiktionary.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;else#Conjunction" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wiktionary.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;else#Conjunction</a><p>There&#x27;s also &quot;or else&quot;, as made famous in crime dramas: &quot;Meet me by the docks at midnight. Bring the money. Come alone. No cops... or else!&quot; But in other usage it can of course be followed by something. &quot;He had to get to work on time, or else he might be fired.&quot;
  • saintfire31 minutes ago
    Article states else is archiac English but later says someone called it ignorantly incorrect English and suggested using &quot;or&quot;.<p>Ive always assumed it was effectively &quot;otherwise&quot; but shortened to &quot;or else&quot; -&gt; &quot;else&quot;.<p>Given the alternative to use &quot;or&quot; as the first pushback I feel that acts as confirmation. I prefer else because &quot;or&quot; has implications in boolean and bitwise logic that else doesn&#x27;t.
  • zacharyvoase33 minutes ago
    it was probably a rote translation of the German word ‘sonst’
  • akersten58 minutes ago
    &gt; I can&#x27;t use &quot;else&quot; as a conjunction in normal speech, only in computer programs.<p>sure you can. who&#x27;s going to stop you?
    • wvenable20 minutes ago
      Hurry up, else we&#x27;ll be late. You&#x27;d better leave now, else you&#x27;ll miss the bus. Do what I say, else there&#x27;ll be trouble.
    • RachelF31 minutes ago
      someone else ;-)
  • LocalH6 minutes ago
    what
  • Frieren52 minutes ago
    If ... then ... otherwise ...<p>Fixed!
    • hcs26 minutes ago
      if ... then ... neht ... fi
    • voidmoth16 minutes ago
      [dead]
  • wewewedxfgdf1 hour ago
    The English language origin is from programming if&#x2F;then&#x2F;else
  • xdennis32 minutes ago
    &gt; I can&#x27;t use &quot;else&quot; as a conjunction in normal speech, only in computer programs.<p>Not true. Here&#x27;s an example from 1876 in which &quot;else&quot; is used as a conjunction.<p>&gt; My brother is poor, and I want to look as much like him as I can, else he may feel distant from me.<p>-- George Eliot ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.victorianlondon.org&#x2F;etexts&#x2F;eliot&#x2F;deronda-0047.shtml" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.victorianlondon.org&#x2F;etexts&#x2F;eliot&#x2F;deronda-0047.sh...</a> )<p>---<p>Here&#x27;s an example of &quot;if ... else&quot; from the 1914 translation of Crime and Punishment ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikisource.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Crime_and_Punishment&#x2F;Part_IV&#x2F;Chapter_III" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikisource.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Crime_and_Punishment&#x2F;Part_IV&#x2F;...</a> ):<p>&gt; Perhaps it will all come back, but now if you love me, give me up . . . else I shall begin to hate you, I feel it.