12 comments

  • grimgrin2 hours ago
    see: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49571634">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49571634</a> &quot;Nitter has more working instances than before the takedowns&quot;<p>many working instances right now: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;shitter&#x2F;shitter&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Instances" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;shitter&#x2F;shitter&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Instances</a>
    • zImPatrick1 hour ago
      also <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;status.d420.de&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;status.d420.de&#x2F;</a>
  • DavCreator2 hours ago
    Would love to redirect more often to shitter instances with <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xxcancel.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xxcancel.com</a>. But there seems to be a bug loading images (e.g. profile pictures or attached pictures to tweets) in Firefox.<p>Example: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shitter.thepixora.com&#x2F;search?f=tweets&amp;q=elon+musk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;shitter.thepixora.com&#x2F;search?f=tweets&amp;q=elon+musk</a><p>Wont show any pictures in Firefox for me. Works in Chrome. Can this be fixed? Thank you!
    • ibejoeb1 hour ago
      It doesn&#x27;t proxy the images, so they won&#x27;t load with enhanced tracking protection enabled.
      • wolvoleo48 minutes ago
        I wonder if a bridge could be built that would bridge the few accounts that still matter on X to something like mastodon or blue sky
  • moopie2 hours ago
    There’s really no reason to bother with social networks owned by literal far right supporters
    • smith70181 hour ago
      I generally agree but I&#x27;m still frequently linked to X and I&#x27;m either unable to view the content because I don&#x27;t have an account or I don&#x27;t click because I don&#x27;t want to visit the site. These services allow me to access the user content without having to go through X, itself. I wish hackers&#x2F;the tech industry moved off of X like most users but here we are.
      • moomin1 hour ago
        I&#x27;ve reached the point where I go &quot;If it&#x27;s on Twitter I don&#x27;t need to know&quot;. We&#x27;ll all reach that point eventually.
      • sureMan61 hour ago
        It&#x27;s not the fault of the users when there&#x27;s no viable alternative<p>Bluesky is founded by the same founders of Twitter and is not open and has ridiculous policies, Mastodon is the same, even less popular and even more tyrannical<p>So the choice for most users, including myself, is tightly moderated spaces run by awful people, or a website run by a literal Nazi, but that at least doesn&#x27;t ban me on sight<p>The Musk twitter acquisition (and the sieg heil at the inauguration) were pivotal moments where a good alternative could&#x27;ve surfaced but instead we got twitter 2.0 (and moving from Twitter to Twitter 2 seems entirely pointless even if it wasn&#x27;t badly moderated on top of that)
        • wolvoleo47 minutes ago
          Mastodon doesn&#x27;t have policies. Every instance has their own policies. That&#x27;s the strength of mastodon.
          • numpad034 minutes ago
            Gargron, Apple, Google, all has&#x2F;had policies for Mastodon, which were incompatible with more than 2&#x2F;3 of its users(at peak).
            • Vaushite10 minutes ago
              I don&#x27;t know how to understand this. Google owns Mastodon?
        • numpad035 minutes ago
          IMO the reason why BS just ended up being Twitter 2.0, or 1.2 even, or why Twitter went down its path in the first place, is that the US and EU are no longer producing enough content to justify ownership or continuous iterations of such a system.<p>Otherwise it wouldn&#x27;t have been forced upon who begrudgingly got funding secured. Any of then-GAFA could have bought it and none wanted to touch it.<p>The bad moderation on those platforms, I think, is a desperate attempt to align platform cultures to the moderating entities&#x27; standards that are no longer comprehensible to users, if known at all, like a kid on a push car moving away from the park trying to steer it back.<p>It seemed fine until 2015 or so, streaming hundreds of novel tweets per second per user, many with novel images. Then things went downhill. Musk can&#x27;t be the sole villain in it.
        • Philpax56 minutes ago
          &gt; Bluesky is founded by the same founders of Twitter and is not open and has ridiculous policies<p>Huh? It is remarkably open and the policies are not really an issue.
          • numpad019 minutes ago
            Bluesky has the same moderation issues as Twitter. There are people complaining their recommendation feeds are full of macho men nudity and&#x2F;or furry images, or flooded by far left infights(not like relative to self-proclaimed centrism but FAR left), or straight up getting banned after they&#x27;ve specifically chosen the most appropriate contents, things like that.<p>Weird thing is that my feed is largely fine other than those gotten banned went back to Twitter. Only politics topics I get are neutral, concerns in global economy, some US and more often Ukraine. No dick pics or furries or antisemetism, just cats, more cats, food pics, infosec stuffs, all as I were back on Twitter in 2009 or so.<p>But there are enough reports of negative experience, so moderatuon is likely still a bit problematic. Or that compounding with lack of passionate users.
          • Vaushite9 minutes ago
            I&#x27;ve gotten banned from Blue Sky for absolutely no discernible reason, and the main feeds are basically centrist slop
      • jjulius1 hour ago
        &gt;I generally agree but I&#x27;m still frequently linked to X...<p>... so? Being linked to it is not an obligation to bother with it, neither is FOMO.
    • afpx1 hour ago
      Not a very helpful comment for someone not in the know. I couldn&#x27;t find anything political on their landing page.
      • 0c3ca831 hour ago
        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbcnews.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;elon-musk&#x2F;elon-musk-boosting-far-right-politics-globe-rcna189505" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nbcnews.com&#x2F;tech&#x2F;elon-musk&#x2F;elon-musk-boosting-fa...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Political_activities_of_Elon_Musk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Political_activities_of_Elon_M...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;10&#x2F;17&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;elon-musk-republican-politics.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;10&#x2F;17&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;elon-musk-republi...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ecfr.eu&#x2F;article&#x2F;musks-war-on-european-democracy-how-to-open-up-x-and-fight-back&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ecfr.eu&#x2F;article&#x2F;musks-war-on-european-democracy-how-...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apnews.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;elon-musk-x-influence-uk-us-politics-48cc1870cbdb5df03829f5ab303b579d" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apnews.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;elon-musk-x-influence-uk-us-polit...</a><p>Hope that helps.
      • lambda1 hour ago
        This tool is for accessing Twitter&#x2F;X, owned by Elon Musk, a far right billionaire.
        • afpx1 hour ago
          oh the parent comment sounded like a criticism of shitter, not x
    • strideashort1 hour ago
      When you go far left, everything looks far right.<p>Seriously, we have a problem labeling anything not left “far right”. It is of course by design and has always been (who is not with us is against us). Not that right is any better, but at list they don’t label everyone across “antifa” or whatever.<p>That said, i do not endorse Musk, especially his infamous gesture.
      • Steltek53 minutes ago
        You don&#x27;t need to go anywhere to see that Musk is far right. If you&#x27;re going to claim otherwise, you&#x27;re gonna need to bring some solid evidence.<p>The &quot;left&quot; spans such a huge range right now that to be &quot;not left&quot; is basically far right. A Republican opposing Trump is _extremely_ rare (and usually excommunicates them from the party) while on the left, you have AOC, Omar, etc actively sharing a party with Fetterman and Manchin. Right&#x2F;far-right was a thing in the 2010&#x27;s but not any more.
        • portmanteur23 minutes ago
          Is there a list of things or beliefs that make someone &quot;Far right&quot;? Is there a list or reason why being labeled &quot;far right&quot; (by others, not oneself) should be disqualifying, or worthy of having your services abused? Nitter and its forks are in violation of the X.com terms of service, which is why they are facing legal challenges. Those challenges may be easily routed around with other technology, but Nitter and its forks are still violating the services brazenly. Are &quot;far right&quot; people beneath the law? Is it okay to steal from someone on the &quot;far right&quot;? Is it okay to commit violence against someone on the &quot;far right&quot;?
          • retrac0 minutes ago
            &gt; Is there a list of things or beliefs that make someone &quot;Far right&quot;?<p>Yes. I mean not literally but this is a poli sci question and it has a fairly objective answer. People who pretend that they don&#x27;t know what left and right wing mean just profess their ignorance of very basic poli sci theory.<p>Both right-wing and left-wing thinkers tend to agree that core division is: belief in natural hierarchy. Though it&#x27;s sometimes phrased slightly differently.<p>Do you believe that there are higher and lower grades of people? Do you believe that some people deserve more than others? You&#x27;re right-wing. Do you take that to an extreme conclusion compared to even other people who believe such things? You&#x27;re far-right.<p>Do you believe that all humans beings are equal? Do you believe that the grades of social differentiation that exist today are unjustified or do not reflect real differentiation in mankind? You&#x27;re left-wing. Do you take that to the extreme conclusion compared to other people who believe such things? You&#x27;re far-left.<p>That&#x27;s the most neutral way I know to phrase it. It should be agreeable to most on both the left and right.<p>That is what these words mean. I know such a definition of left and right is not perfect but it&#x27;s also the closest thing we have to a workable semantics.
        • strideashort31 minutes ago
          Ah yes, you only need to set the label, those who disagree need to prove the negative. Pretty typical.<p>What is “far right”, btw? What are objective measurable criteria?<p>&gt; The &quot;left&quot; spans such a huge range right now that to be &quot;not left&quot; is basically far right<p>Jesus Christ, you can’t be serious. But then again, I am not surprised that you are.
        • hagbard_c28 minutes ago
          The right spans such a huge range right now that not to be right is to be &quot;far-left&quot;. A &quot;democrat&quot; opposing the OmniCause (&quot;climate, migration and &#x27;palestine&#x27;&quot;) is _extremely_ rare and usually gets excommunicated from the Party, e.g. Fetterman and Manchin (whom you for some reason listed as &#x27;democrats&#x27; even though the Party does its best to label and shun them) while on the right you have people ranging from Massey to Trump, Vance to Rubio, Wiles to Collins.<p>So maybe it is in the eye of the beholder? I certainly see far more labelling coming from the &quot;left&quot; side of the spectrum than from the &quot;right&quot; side although they&#x27;re certainly catching up lately now that the communist zombie has risen from its grave again. On the &quot;right&quot; the general idea of the &quot;left&quot; seems to be that they&#x27;re &#x27;stupid&#x27;, &#x27;naive&#x27; and &#x27;uninformed&#x27; while on the &quot;left&quot; the general idea of the &quot;right&quot; seems to be that they&#x27;re &#x27;evil&#x27;, &#x27;narrow-minded&#x27;, &#x27;racist&#x27; and &#x27;*-phobe&#x27;. Neither of these general ideas are true but that doesn&#x27;t seem to bother anyone.
      • surgical_fire19 minutes ago
        Er, Musk did a Nazi salute and publicly supported the AfD in Germany.<p>What else do you need to agree that he is far right? Wear an SS outfit? Put some people in ovens?
        • strideashort8 minutes ago
          Ah, AfD, the party with female lesbians leader, right? typical far right, point taken.<p>Otherwise, yes, I think labeling any party which works within the legal bounds as “far” is dangerous. Because there are legit far groups which should not be permitted on both sides of the spectrum. And we better know what is legitimate and what not.
    • numpad01 hour ago
      It&#x27;s just a gorgeous free lunch tavern if you didn&#x27;t even understand English through LLM and American right wing politics was just the cash pile for patrons to shovel into the fireplace.<p>There&#x27;s some likely made up charts online[1] for country stats of Twitter right now, and Twitter is allegedly 2.5x more popular than it is in the US in the top two countries, which are incidentally known for strong-ish purchasing power and near-nonexistent English literacy.<p>Musk&#x27;s ongoing massive self humiliation is largely contained to the US&#x2F;English speaking space. Other parts of the world with no strong cultural understandings and pathways from the US and its politics, which is quite substantial still, are fine, ish. Things like LLM auto translation haven&#x27;t made a change to that situation; it only strengthened the reverse of that pathway.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;soax.com&#x2F;research&#x2F;twitter-active-users" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;soax.com&#x2F;research&#x2F;twitter-active-users</a>
    • bluecalm17 minutes ago
      If you think Musk is far right you will have a really bad time in coming years. Musk holds very few far right views in comparison to parties very close to power in many EU countries for example.<p>He is against mass immigration, especially from Islamic countries. That is a very mainstream view though. There is nothing &#x27;far&#x27; about it.
      • ashkankiani3 minutes ago
        His nazi salute looked pretty far up and to the right. Twice, btw.
      • Vaushite8 minutes ago
        Everyone is against &quot;mass&quot; immigration as in &quot;let&#x27;s go to country X and gather a million people and bring them to country Y&quot;, that&#x27;s not controversial
      • moopie11 minutes ago
        [dead]
    • hagbard_c51 minutes ago
      In the same vein there is no reason to bother with social networks owned by <i>literal far left supporters</i>, i.e. nearly all the others. Combined these two statements lead to the conclusion that hardly any social networks are worth bothering which is something I can get behind.
    • stronglikedan1 hour ago
      Of course there is, don&#x27;t be silly. There&#x27;s also no alternative at the moment, or for the foreseeable future. Sure, there&#x27;s some knockoffs that try hard, but they&#x27;re still jokes.
      • cwnyth1 hour ago
        You forget that Twitter is just a joke.
      • Vaushite1 hour ago
        What&#x27;s the reason?
    • Markoff1 hour ago
      Except when tons of gov owned services (police, firemen, emergency services) are using it to communicate with citizens...
    • sergiotapia1 hour ago
      You are the reason Bioware is now dead and scattered to the winds.
      • moopie1 hour ago
        Yes, me pointing out that Elon Musk supports far right parties is the reason why EA execs decided to shut down BioWare to pay themselves more
    • calvinmorrison1 hour ago
      What if i am part of the far right?
    • add-sub-mul-div2 hours ago
      For someone who&#x27;s been on Twitter for a long time, these alternatives function as a good off-ramp that&#x27;s easier than quitting entirely and abruptly. I deleted my account a few years ago knowing I&#x27;d still be able to see some of the content without viewing their ads or contributing my own content.
    • beanjuiceII1 hour ago
      [flagged]
      • moopie1 hour ago
        Elon Musk supports Le Pen and she’s in the Nationalist Rally party, which was started by literal SS members<p>And that’s just my quick googling
        • hagbard_c48 minutes ago
          Assuming you&#x27;re American and assuming you ever cast a vote you&#x27;ll have voted for the party which pushed slavery, from which the KKK was born and which pushed for segregation and the Jim Crow laws, i.e. the &quot;democratic&quot; party.
          • moopie27 minutes ago
            You should blame Nixon for using the southern strategy and making alliance of the racists that gave us Donald Trump then<p>Imagine going from freeing slaves to hunting people like Ilhan Omar just because she’s not white
  • BLKNSLVR3 hours ago
    I thought it should be called Xitter, but pronounced Shitter.
    • lioeters2 hours ago
      Xittier, a better Xwitter alternative
    • weatherlite3 hours ago
      What the hell is this Xit
      • dewey2 hours ago
        Exit Twitter
        • leoc2 hours ago
          Out, damnéd xit! out, I say!
  • SomeonesAccount2 hours ago
    I made a thing that uses Nitter to have a revchron timeline of people in the tech space. No algorithm, every post shows up (unless you filter out an account). Feedback is appreciated: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techtwitter-lime.vercel.app" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techtwitter-lime.vercel.app</a>
  • jimmydoe2 hours ago
    somehow i feel this reflects if not also enhances the cultural position of x.com.
  • hmokiguess3 hours ago
    can someone explain to me how these things keep popping up and disappearing and how are they able to just spin them up at will somehow?
    • yoavm2 hours ago
      What do you mean by &quot;how&quot;? The code is freely available, you can spin it up at will too in just a few minutes. When they disappear, sometimes it&#x27;s because the maintainer doesn&#x27;t want the headache, and sometimes it&#x27;s because a they&#x27;re threatened to remove it.
      • hmokiguess2 hours ago
        I guess I never bothered reading the code so for whatever reason I assumed it required some extraordinary circumvention to host it that isn&#x27;t very accessible<p>what you&#x27;re saying, if I understand correctly, is that self-hosting this is trivial then<p>so does that mean I could run my own local instance and never get it taken down since traffic would be negligible? why do people opt to host these for others over teaching how to run your own for example?
        • pamcake1 hour ago
          &gt; what you&#x27;re saying, if I understand correctly, is that self-hosting this is trivial then<p>Yes. It comes encouraged.<p>&gt; so does that mean I could run my own local instance and never get it taken down since traffic would be negligible?<p>Yes, unless the other end forbids it and really cares about controlling clients. If they do and manage to detect that you are using alternative client they could block based on that. In times where that happens and there are client devs who care, it becomes a cat-and-mouse.
        • fcarraldo2 hours ago
          Because it isn’t magic, there’s still Twitter auth required <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zedeus&#x2F;nitter&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;src&#x2F;auth.nim" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;zedeus&#x2F;nitter&#x2F;blob&#x2F;master&#x2F;src&#x2F;auth.nim</a><p>Every individual running their own instance would be the equivalent of every individual having their own Twitter account, which defeats the purpose.
          • causesothere1 hour ago
            Well, not totally. It&#x27;s read only, which changes how people engage. It also lets you control ordering and presentation. It also lets you hide ads.
          • cassianoleal2 hours ago
            We need a multiplexer in front of all these instances. One that works like a load balancer, health checking the individual instances and adding&#x2F;removing them from the pool automatically. That would allow people to create new accounts, serve their own instance and attach them to the muxer.
            • progval2 hours ago
              That&#x27;s <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xxcancel.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;xxcancel.com&#x2F;</a>
              • Vaushite1 hour ago
                And <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twiiit.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twiiit.com&#x2F;</a>
        • Vaushite1 hour ago
          Yes all of that. I think it&#x27;s unwise to share details here, because X&#x27;s anticircumvention team are reading HN.
    • AdmiralAsshat2 hours ago
      I assume the source code repo is still up somewhere, so I assume it&#x27;s the domains that are being taken offline, not the code, and anyone can then trivially spin up their own instance.
  • nine_k1 hour ago
    Is the code crap? Is it optimized for shitposting? Is it called so to show disdain towards the service formerly known as Twitter?
  • draw_down2 hours ago
    I am begging these things to use a normal fucking name for once
    • Vaushite1 hour ago
      What would you consider a normal name, though? Alternative Twitter Front-End? It&#x27;d be taken down for trademark infringement.
    • extraextra1 hour ago
      LOL
  • fashglk1 hour ago
    [flagged]
  • assimpleaspossi2 hours ago
    No professional would stoop so low as to name any project such a thing. And HN should never post such low class gutter language.
    • valicord2 hours ago
      Sarcasm?
      • assimpleaspossi2 hours ago
        Absolutely not! Such low life gutter talk is not acceptable in polite society and shouldn&#x27;t be allowed in any professional atmosphere. Or am I again trying to elevate HN?
        • causesothere1 hour ago
          Peepee poopoo.<p>Maybe your cultural values aren&#x27;t my cultural values. Maybe you need to consider who you are excluding by suggesting that using a curse word is unacceptable?<p>Cursing has a long tradition in lower economic class culture, in some minority cultures, in queer culture, heck in mainstream cultures worldwide we say &quot;shit&quot;, etc. You want them all to conform to your one view of how professionals <i>should</i> be? The curse word isn&#x27;t directed at you, it isn&#x27;t directed at anyone you know, or even at a person.<p>No, I think maybe I&#x27;d rather live in a world where people are colorful, use language that&#x27;s authentic to them, and include more people in the dialog.
          • assimpleaspossi1 hour ago
            &gt;&gt;Maybe you need to consider who you are excluding by suggesting that using a curse word is unacceptable?<p>I am. Thus the complaint. I would think the general audience here is of a higher caliber than low-class cultures whose values and education can&#x27;t rise above profanity.
            • rpdillon31 minutes ago
              Profanity is fine, even among the well-educated and elite classes. I think you&#x27;re being a bit puritanical here. I&#x27;ve encountered this attitude before (my octogenarian dad loses his mind when I say &quot;fuck&quot;, which I do many times daily), but there&#x27;s really nothing behind all the pearl clutching - sometimes people curse, and that&#x27;s Just Fine.
            • krapp1 hour ago
              &gt;I would think the general audience here is of a higher caliber than low-class cultures whose values and education can&#x27;t rise above profanity.<p>My person in deity &quot;enshittification&quot; is a technical term of art around here, and &quot;Gimp&quot; is both a popular graphics software and a sexual fetish term.<p>No one besides children and people with low emotional IQ care about such things.
              • causesothere1 hour ago
                Hopefully this person doesn&#x27;t see your username! A homophone of &quot;crap&quot;! They&#x27;d be scandalized!
            • causesothere1 hour ago
              Ah, so racism and classism it is then. Can&#x27;t be having those &quot;poors&quot; here on our spotless orange site. Want to say something homophobic and or sexist before we continue?
              • 1ajhg1 hour ago
                If you fight like that against Musk, he&#x27;ll win again at some point. Maybe not in 2028 but in 2032.
          • BigTTYGothGF1 hour ago
            &gt; Cursing has a long tradition in<p>By and large the hacker news moderators and commentariat have demonstrated that they do not welcome those cultures here.
            • causesothere1 hour ago
              For sure. This site is definitely not welcoming to everyone. Lord help you here if you are trans.
              • vapel17 minutes ago
                I sure wish he did.<p>At least I&#x27;m living now and not in the past. I do believe in gradual progress.<p>Uh, shitfuck.
          • es1kl1 hour ago
            Cursing in a comment is fine. Expecting people to use a tool, perhaps daily, named after a curse word is different.
            • causesothere1 hour ago
              No one is expecting anyone to use a tool. Someone is offering a tool. Fork it and rename it. What a load of nonsense &quot;expect&quot;.
              • cwnyth1 hour ago
                Dude created his account 30 minutes ago. He&#x27;s just a cowardly troll, probably paid by Twitter.
        • satvikpendem2 hours ago
          I laughed.
  • ly0n2 minutes ago
    Stop using platforms that are clearly operated by fascists. Then we won&#x27;t need such tools anymore.