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  • daishi5511 minutes ago
    When you can equally reasonably make the opposite argument - that AI is going to open up scientific exploration and contribution to a wider range of participants than ever before - then I think it’s a sign that nobody has any idea what’s going to happen and spending time making either claim is probably pointless until we have more data.
    • solomonb10 minutes ago
      Its pretty clear that there are significant limitations on who has access to the compute needed to drive LLM based scientific research.
      • jonhohle5 minutes ago
        Not only resources being controlled by a few organizations, but the noise of all of the people who have used AI to “discover” something novel, when they don’t understand the domain in the first place. When everyone is discovering something, but what they are publishing is either incorrect or already known, how do you wade through the slop to find the gems (maybe academic publishing was already filled with human slop, though).
  • bennettnate51 hour ago
    &gt; The scientific literature can be viewed as an &quot;information commons:&quot; an intangible resource that &quot;no one owns<p>Springer would like a word
  • Glyptodon44 minutes ago
    Admin, maybe merge with submission: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50187248">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50187248</a>
  • contemporary3431 hour ago
    One simple way to understand how this is currently manifesting is the administration&#x27;s severe, and really unprecedented, defunding of basic science at NSF (likely in unconstitutional defiance of Congress&#x27; appropriations to specific NSF directorates). Instead the way the funding has been redirected (by the White House OSTP) is based on the assumption that future knowledge will be exclusively AI (sorry SI) generated, so humans not needed.<p>China, on the other hand, seems to be doubling down on fundamental research, including announcing these changes:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.globaltimes.cn&#x2F;page&#x2F;202609&#x2F;1371583.shtml" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.globaltimes.cn&#x2F;page&#x2F;202609&#x2F;1371583.shtml</a><p>and this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scmp.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;china&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;3368750&#x2F;china-offers-15-year-research-grants-worlds-brightest-young-scientists" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.scmp.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;china&#x2F;science&#x2F;article&#x2F;3368750&#x2F;chin...</a>
    • Legend244047 minutes ago
      I think this is completely unrelated.<p>This administration thinks science is &#x27;woke&#x27; because it says things that disagree with him. Many of these funding cuts were explicitly politically motivated, e.g. they specifically targeted research about diversity, gender, or vaccines.<p>It&#x27;s not about AI, it&#x27;s about removing funding from liberal causes and giving it to conservative causes.
      • ar81320 minutes ago
        Unfortunately it is entirely related. The initial wave of cancelations were about those topics, but the more structural thing they are attempting now is to focus funds on tool development for AI models as opposed to human capital development as NSF does.
      • asdff33 minutes ago
        No it is about AI too. Trump et al want there to be no dispensing of federal grants to academics in the future. They want the government to instead cut checks directly to xAI et al who will do all our research for us in the future and will for certain represent our best interests and not those of shareholders exclusively.
        • Legend244017 minutes ago
          If AI didn&#x27;t exist, he&#x27;d find some other excuse to do the exact same thing.<p>The real reason for this is that Elon Musk is a conservative megadonor, while academics are vocally opposed to Trump. He takes from his enemies and gives to his friends; that&#x27;s how he operates.
    • 101110011 hour ago
      &gt; Instead the way the funding has been redirected (by the White House OSTP) is based on the assumption that future knowledge will be exclusively AI (sorry SI) generated, so humans not needed.<p>Can you go into more detail about that? My impression is the real reason the Trump administration has defunded basic science (and so much else) is an unholy combination of &quot;government bad&quot; libertarianism and the belief the funding was going to their ideological opponents.<p>I feel that and use of AI to justify the redirection is most likely post-hoc.
      • whatshisface50 minutes ago
        Going by the public announcements, the original plan was to cut science funding but once Congress said &quot;no,&quot; the backup plan became directing it towards non - human - scientist items like facilities operations and the Genesis program.
  • Herring50 minutes ago
    This is not that difficult. It&#x27;s just like what happened to physical fitness&#x2F;obesity after the invention of the car. Go look at countries that do it reasonably well (ie not the US). Copy exactly what they do, wholesale.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KPUlgSRn6e0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=KPUlgSRn6e0</a> [Not Just Bikes]