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  • minimaxir1 hour ago
    As a tangent, there has recently been <i>drama</i> with AI and Pokemon Showdown because someone trained a bot (using standard reinforcement learning + a rewrite of the Pokemon battle engine to Rust for max self-play parallelism) that is apparently good enough to get to the top of the leaderboard.
    • grabnero1 hour ago
      Yeah I saw that too which was partly the inspo for this experiment. I feel like its kind of getting to a place like in chess where AI is getting better and while theres alot of drama right now, I feel like it&#x27;ll be something like stockfish in the future
  • jfreds1 hour ago
    Did you try out different reasoning levels? Wondering if messaging is basically a proxy for additional reasoning
  • pgn2 hours ago
    what was the selection for the teams? random per round? how does it play against people in ladder?
    • grabnero1 hour ago
      Yeah! So I did teams from a fixed, random seeded pool and then would rerun it with the switched teams. It also doesn&#x27;t play against ladder yet but I played against it and it&#x27;s not horrible. It plays better than an amateur but I was able to beat it a good amount
  • doctorpangloss2 hours ago
    Pokémon Showdown isn&#x27;t a game so much as it is competitive Wiki reading.
    • grabnero1 hour ago
      Not going to lie I agree lol but still interesting to see
  • deadbabe2 hours ago
    Jev will give better results on this kind of thing.
    • nico2 hours ago
      For sure there are many better models for this use case[0]<p>At the same time, it’s interesting seeing how generally capable language models&#x2F;LLMs&#x2F;agents&#x2F;harnesses are getting<p>We’ll probably see a lot more experiments and benchmarks like these in the near future<p>0: simple classifiers can play quite a few game, including Doom <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playground.jeffyclassify.com&#x2F;#doom" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;playground.jeffyclassify.com&#x2F;#doom</a>
    • grabnero1 hour ago
      Yeah Jev can play it but Jev cant communicate with its teammate in the 2v2 + it cant reason and is just a decision model
      • nico34 minutes ago
        I agree with you<p>&gt; but Jev cant communicate<p>However, it can chat <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49778162">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49778162</a><p>Not very well of course :)