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  • nickcw53 minutes ago
    From Google&#x27;s status page <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;status.cloud.google.com&#x2F;incidents&#x2F;Xs2XTHzAVC9YnafnPyzj" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;status.cloud.google.com&#x2F;incidents&#x2F;Xs2XTHzAVC9YnafnPy...</a><p><pre><code> We are experiencing an issue with multiple services in europe-west2 beginning on Monday, 2026-10-19 23:08 PDT. Due to a power event we had suffered an outage within europe-west2-b zone. The power event is mitigated. Partial mitigation to infrastructure services will be observed within the next 30 minutes and the remaining services will be mitigated there after. </code></pre> So some kind of power failure happened to bring down one zone. Unfortunate, but this kind of stuff happens. That is why all the cloud providers have multiple zones, and I&#x27;m amazed the big companies reported as down weren&#x27;t using multiple zones.<p>(Also reporting the times in PDT is quite unhelpful for users of this zone who are likely based in the UK or EU)
    • bsuvc31 minutes ago
      I&#x27;m not saying it&#x27;s the case here, but sometimes the cloud providers themselves have inter-zone dependencies, or even inter-region dependencies that can cause outages in other zones and regions.<p>For example, AWS us-east-1 outages have caused global outages on multiple occasions, such as <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.networkworld.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;4168878&#x2F;aws-hit-by-us-east-1-outage-after-data-center-thermal-event.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.networkworld.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;4168878&#x2F;aws-hit-by-us-e...</a>
    • robinson-wall38 minutes ago
      &gt; I&#x27;m amazed the big companies reported as down weren&#x27;t using multiple zones<p>Much as with backups - if you don&#x27;t test them, they don&#x27;t exist.<p>Everywhere I&#x27;ve worked has had multi-AZ infrastructure. I have never worked anywhere where the failure of an AZ has been simulated regularly, with second-order effects mapped out.
    • cavoirom6 minutes ago
      I know some banks out-sourced most of its infrastructure to external operators, and some operator I worked with didn&#x27;t seem competent.
  • gadders1 hour ago
    &gt;&gt;Google cloud outage takes down HSBC, Revolut, Bank of Scotland, Llyods, Equifax, more<p>You will probably have issues logging into Llyods even when the cloud is back up.
    • venzaspa8 minutes ago
      It&#x27;s crazy. My main account is with Starling and I have a Lloyds account for a saving an account and some free cinema tickets. I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve ever had an issue with Starling, it&#x27;s great - Lloyds fails to sign in about 50% of the time consistently.
    • michaellee814 minutes ago
      cannot agree more
  • bcvvvy1 hour ago
    I bank with HSBC. Everything is up and working.<p>A lot of the information people are leveraging here comes from Downdetector which is mostly users reporting that stuff is down, not whether they are actually down. It&#x27;s a really bad source.
    • m11a43 minutes ago
      It&#x27;s a pretty good source ime (at least, massive spikes tend to correlate well with issues). Traditional organisations aren&#x27;t as transparent as SF tech companies about service downtime. Plus, if the service isn&#x27;t working for its users, I wouldn&#x27;t say it&#x27;s actually up.
    • 4ndrewl28 minutes ago
      Alternatively, and from the top of the HSBC homepage<p>&quot;We would like to apologise for any inconvenience and continue to monitor the situation, which is also affecting other organisations.&quot;
  • paweladamczuk2 hours ago
    For me it was Revolut. No access to my main account, no withdrawals, no card payments since the morning. App doesn&#x27;t work, there&#x27;s no phone number to call, nobody to talk to. Dark side of neobanking, I guess.
    • Arbortheus1 hour ago
      Not all neobanks. I use Monzo, and they had an outage a while back. I was impressed that it barely affected their functionality.<p>They have a stand-in system that uses a separate codebase and separate cloud provider. They have a blog post about it here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monzo.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;tolerating-full-cloud-outages-with-monzo-stand-in" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;monzo.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;tolerating-full-cloud-outages-with-mo...</a><p>The stand-in system has a limited subset of features, i.e. no bells and whistles, but enough that you can get any actual banking done.<p>(Not an ad &#x2F; I have no connection to Monzo, I just had some appreciation for a bank doing this properly as normally banking IT is a disaster. Plus the idea of keeping a separate codebase for almost an entire bank&#x27;s functionality seems very invested.)<p>I have always got bad vibes from Revolut...
      • m11a37 minutes ago
        Starling also has a disaster recovery system across cloud providers, although it is implemented differently to Monzo&#x27;s (I used to work there on multi-cloud).<p>Multi-cloud is really tough, tbh. It&#x27;s easier said than done, especially if you care about data consistency at all.
      • ndsipa_pomu1 hour ago
        &gt; I have always got bad vibes from Revolut...<p>I opened up a Revolut account a couple of years ago with the intention of switching my current account to it (i.e. wages going into it etc), but I got spooked after hearing that they weren&#x27;t registered as a UK bank and thus subject to the various regulations and protections. I tried using Chase instead and have been happy with it so far.
        • misstuned52 minutes ago
          I used to use Starling as my main and they were fine, until I started getting issues with random card declines due to &quot;fraud prevention&quot; and nobody to talk to. I switched to First Direct and like the peace of mind of having a human on the phone if needed (when I wanted to make a huge transfer for my house deposit it was nice to have!) and I still get perks like free foreign card transactions.
        • altmanaltman34 minutes ago
          <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.revolut.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;post&#x2F;revolut-is-officially-a-bank-in-the-uk&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.revolut.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;post&#x2F;revolut-is-officially-a-ba...</a><p>They are reigistered now
  • gentlerain1 hour ago
    Countries talking about AI sovereignty, when they forgot compute sovereignty
    • Arbortheus1 hour ago
      I think sovereignty might be the _cause_ of the banks&#x27; outages...<p>This is affecting companies that put everything into a single GCP region in the UK for their entire business - aka most likely British companies or government with a data sovereignty requirement.
      • gentlerain1 hour ago
        That&#x27;s not sovereignty.<p>Sovereignty is when there is a UK company with multiple data centres in the country.<p>With that if one region goes down, another can carry on.
        • derektank1 hour ago
          Redundancy does not seem like an inherent component of sovereignty
          • pwagland18 minutes ago
            The UK, at least, is big enough that you can have multiple regions within the same country. There&#x27;s a lot of distance between Glasgow and London, for example. Maybe not enough if both are targeted with nuclear warheads, but at that point, we have bigger fish to fry I suspect.<p>Most European countries have enough space within the country to do that, and, for most things, except banking typically, hosting within the EU is enough, it doesn&#x27;t have to be within your own country.
            • pumplekin5 minutes ago
              Microsoft Azure has two entirely seperate regions.<p>A &quot;full function&quot; one in&#x2F;around London. And a &quot;tickbox&quot; one for multi-region requirements near Cardiff.<p>The tickbox one has constant capacity constraints and a large number of Azure services aren&#x27;t in it, but if you need to tick the &quot;two regions and in country&quot; requirement, you kinda&#x2F;sorta can.
          • gentlerain45 minutes ago
            True on first glance.<p>But considering what these sovereignty rules aim to achive, and as someone mentioned, that the problem may be due to companies relying on a single region provided by a hypersclaler due to data sovereignity rules.<p>Then redundancy has to be considered by both the company and the rulers.
  • misstuned42 minutes ago
    I couldn&#x27;t unlock a shared city bike this morning on the Beryl system, probably the same outage.
  • BlackRabbit135 minutes ago
    Most likely it knocked out the &quot;Ing&quot; bank in Germany.
  • mistic9225 minutes ago
    Ah again London region :D
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  • rvz37 minutes ago
    Since there are no humans working on outages here is the test for superintelligence:<p>Can someone ask Claude, Codex, Copilot, Antigravity, Devin to resolve this outage?<p>No Googling or help from humans this time.