Ok, so it actually flies. That was unexpected.<p>It's an incredible engineering achievement to build in massive fans and rocket engines into a high performance car. It's truly wild.<p>It's being sold in two modes. One with cold gas (no combustion) seemingly just for extra forwards acceleration (no flying) and one with real combustion rocket engines, the latter was in the video and is "invite only".<p>Wild that they devoted so much effort to an economically completely infeasible model. I wonder if the combustion version will even break 3 figures sales.<p>Even just the cold gas variant seems like a nightmare for production, there's a high pressure COPV in that thing and that's gonna make crashes much more.. exciting, and Tesla doesn't have a great record anyways. But very few of these are ever getting sold anyways.
Reading <a href="https://www.tesla.com/roadster" rel="nofollow">https://www.tesla.com/roadster</a>, it seems like both variants only use cold gas thrusters, and the difference is that the "normal" (lol) one only has them pointed rearwards while the flying one has them pointed in all different directions as well.
> kinda wild they devoted this much effort to an economically completely infeasible model.<p>Watch Ford v Ferrari for an idea of what auto companies are willing to invest for bragging rights.
> Wild that they devoted so much effort to an economically completely infeasible model.<p>Can't help but think of the not-a-flamethrower<p>(friend bought one for $500, now they seem to be worth $1500-$2000)<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company#Merchandise" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company#Merchandise</a>
I thought somewhere in the video they said that it is just regular compressed air that is held in a tank, and that the car itself has a compressor and regenerates the compressed air over time. Obviously to stabilize that amount of weight the gas has to be ejected at such a high rate it is practically frozen at the nozzle outlet, but it is still just regular air.
It's cool as fuck but calling it flying is misleading. It jumps and can maneuver in space.
> and one with real combustion rocket engines<p>The site states it's cold-gas thrusters for both models: "Features a multi-mode suction system paired with cold-gas thrusters positioned around the perimeter of the vehicle that support forward and upward acceleration as well as lateral rotational movement."
It's very economically feasible if it pumps up the stock price
to be fair we don’t actually know yet that this is a high performance car. We only saw it drive a few mph without rocket assistance
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Looks like a sensible turning down of the Cybertruck aesthetic into something that looks good.<p>That said, the production issues with the Cybertruck mean you’d be a fool to reserve one of these. Let others do it, find out how late it arrives, what glued panels fall off at speed and wait for the inevitable recalls. Tesla has torched their engineering reputation lately and this page is making a <i>lot</i> of promises about revolutionary things.
> what glued panels fall off<p>The Lotus Elise was famously glued together instead of welds. The original Roadster also had the same innards.<p>This is clearly not a car for someone who wants to go from A to B, but a lot of Tesla components gets binned together for the next iteration of the cheaper car because they always order too many of them.<p>Oddly enough this makes their cheaper cars more reliable than the expensive ones (think about the Audis right when Ferdinand Piech took over Lamborgini).
This type of vehicle isn't intended to drive at speed, at least not very far. It's targeted at collectors who will park it in a garage with their other supercars. It's a status symbol with wheels, not transportation or even a toy for track days. (And I don't mean that as a criticism, there's nothing wrong with wealthy people buying collectibles.)
> (And I don't mean that as a criticism, there's nothing wrong with wealthy people buying collectibles.)<p>there's a whole lot of systemic issues with wealthy people buying low-poly cars to their collection.
It’s not premium enough for collectors. I could see plenty of tech people buying one as a daily driver that they also take to the track though.
I liked the rounded one lots better:<p><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/NextGenTeslaRoadster_(cropped).jpg" rel="nofollow">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/NextGenT...</a>
That was my first thought, Cybertruck: The Car. But then it drove up a wall and stopped on the ceiling and flew down. That was awesome. I'm sure it will be a nightmare to own.
Everyone is talking about the Cybertruck, but both the 3 and the Y have plenty of engineering problems as well. I believe both cars are listed as below-average reliability by CR.<p>Worse, there are no 3rd parties producing cheaper suspension parts, so your old Model 3 is going to have to spend 2000-3000$ on an yearly basis until you get sick of fixing the suspension. Tesla claims to have fixed the issue on newer models (and apparently they did a lot of work on the suspension), but they don't really take responsibility for their old cars so I doubt they will take responsibility when their design causes problems for you.<p>I do enjoy driving my 2019 SR+ Model 3, but I hate when people do the whole "Well on first principles, EVs have less parts so they are more reliable..." thing. My Toyota Sienna has been far more reliable than the Model 3, despite having many, many more parts.
Early Model 3/Ys built in the US were unreliable. The ones built in Shanghai, though, are excellent. Berlin is somewhere in the middle.<p>FWIW, I'm into my fourth year of (Chinese-built) Model 3 ownership and it's been rock solid, the only services so far were to replace the air filter and wipers.
<i>> My Toyota Sienna has been far more reliable than the Model 3, despite having many, many more parts.</i><p>This is less about EVs vs ICEs and more about Toyota's engineering quality vs Tesla's engineering quality, which is hovering somewhere in the vicinity of Homer Simpson's barbecue pit.
> glued panels fall off at speed<p>Given some of the tauted 'features' of this thing, I'd be more concerned about it blowing up in my driveway.
at least the CyberTruck shipped.<p>9 years since the announcement of Roadster v2, people who paid 50k deposits are still waiting.<p>Time to up the promises, and ask for more $50k deposits for v3!
A lot of haters of Tesla on HN I see, I guess you all are trying everything to malalign Tesla and see what sticks.
Tesla's most recent project was the largest flop in automotive history lol.
The latest car Tesla released, the cybertruck, was one of the biggest automotive flops ever, production is essentially halted, demand is non-existant.<p>Tesla announced and started taking reservations for their roadster TEN YEARS AGO. People who made reservations and paid the $50k-$250k cost are STILL WAITING.<p>And now Tesla has announced yet another vapourware car, with a controversial design, taking reservation money again.<p>If you fall for this, you are a fool.
I don’t hate Tesla, I do think their leader is a Nazi Saluting prick though. You like him?
The livestream has the stunts: <a href="https://x.com/Tesla/status/2110788059008819215" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/Tesla/status/2110788059008819215</a>
Cool!!! Whoever thinks this is *not cool* please, leave your cool card at the door
Cool, but not realistic. This is a prototype, if you have enough money you can build a prototype car that does just about anything. When the car starts shipping the "cool" features will be missing.
What is the practical use case of this? <a href="https://x.com/JehovaTrades/status/2110906028971938252" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/JehovaTrades/status/2110906028971938252</a>
Americans will do anything to avoid roundabouts.
Literally dozens of scenarios have been documented. e.g. <a href="https://youtube.com/watch?v=f1B21Nd9oZ4&t=1000s" rel="nofollow">https://youtube.com/watch?v=f1B21Nd9oZ4&t=1000s</a>
WTF, that the most cartoonist thing i've seen today. Does it really have to do the flip ?
Neat, but that car has to be practically empty. It appears to have very low inertia.<p>By rough estimate, using hydroxide jet packs as a reference, I’d say they got it down to about 600kg.
You were never stuck in traffic I take it:D Insurance will be a bitch, but people will move out of your way.
To show off? Like whatever you think of it the market for supercars is rich men who want to show off so Tesla is playing in that market.
To play Spy Hunter irl?
To brag to other, lesser billionaires.
Uhh to be sick af?
This is something straight out of Rocket League. Completely impractical, but awesome at the same time.
Some smart cookies put up a scam video topping Google searches for the announcement: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5lmBq00utE" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5lmBq00utE</a><p>AI Elon pressure selling "act decisively, double your money" by transferring crypto to some wallet and getting 2x back - yeah, right<p>(PS Google shut it down)
I am amazed at how steady and in control the car was when flipping and jumping. If that kind of control on a vehicle is achieved today, it seems like flying car tech just took a giant lurch forward. Just in time for America's crumbling road infrastructure.
This was 100% precursor to the absorption of Tesla into SpaceX and I’m here for it<p><a href="https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/tesla-spacex-merger-could-announced-140210982.html" rel="nofollow">https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/tesla-spac...</a>
Yes, let's combine Twitter, an AI company, and a space company with a solar company, car company, battery company, and robotics company, so that we can have one huge valuation that can't be possibly delivered upon and losses will be absorbed for a short period. What could go wrong?
Japanese companies manage fine doing this kind of thing.
Tesla-Yutani
It would almost be as big a monstrosity as Amazon
but... All elon companies. More valuable bundled, because all the elon lovers don't have to pick where they throw their tithes. I'd love it even more if they throw in a tunnel construction and a human brain implant company in the mix while they are at it.
This would be a horrible deal for Tesla investors.<p>Long-term investors would lose about 40% of their investment to subsidize the inflated valuation of X (bought by xAI), the inflated valuation of xAI (bought by SpaceX), and SpaceX (whose valuation is based on the assumption that demand for inference is effectively unlimited, and that everyone will prefer hardware in space over Earth).<p>The valuation of both companies was inflated prior to acquisition, and Tesla shareholders will be asked to dilute their investment by absorbing that cumulative inflation.<p>Not even to mention that Musk would have exclusive control over the entire conglomerate, with not even the pretense of a Board to check his power.<p>When even Steven Mark Ryan is like "let's pump the breaks a little bit," you know it's bad.
There are three configurations:<p>- Performance: road ready, seats two, active aero and a “multi-mode suction system.” 0-60 mph in under 1.6 seconds. Available by reservation.<p>- Thrust: race ready, seats two, adds rear-mounted cold-gas thrusters. 0-60 mph in under 0.9 seconds. Limited release.<p>- Rocket: seats one, adds thrusters around the perimeter of the car for upward and rotational movement. 0-60 mph in under 0.59 seconds and a top speed of over 230 mph. Invite only.<p>Per Electrek: <a href="https://electrek.co/2026/10/15/tesla-unveils-cyberfied-new-roadster-kickflip/" rel="nofollow">https://electrek.co/2026/10/15/tesla-unveils-cyberfied-new-r...</a>
Okay that's one of the coolest things I've seen in a while since the rockets landing.<p>Car looks half decent too.
Using suction to create downforce is an idea that’s been built for race track usage in the past (and been successful in F1 in the ‘70s), but the near certainty of mortal injury from the system failing (and thus destabilizing the vehicle at high speed) made it unpopular and its incorporation has been very limited (McLaren and Ariel did versions, I think). I’m confused how this has (or will pass) regulatory approval for road use. Is the idea that the driver should only utilize this on a track?
It seems it's not a convertible anymore? Which means it shouldn't be called a Roadster.
So this is a completely obvious scam, right? I don't see anyone else calling this out and I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.<p>The thing that they showed off isn't something that they could legally sell, it would basically be a bomb. Also, the battery pack that would go in the car would be so large that they couldn't do the stunts they showed in their drone vehicle.<p>Are we not calling an obvious stock pumping charade what it is out of some sense of politeness?
I feel like it's also crazy irresponsible to sell this deathtrap to the public, since it's pretty much guaranteed buyers will joyride this on public roads.<p>- The cold-gas only version will shotgun debris into onlookers, and possibly yeet anyone behind it.<p>- Active suction is very cool until a rock punches through your intakes.<p>- Lithium batteries and pressurised tanks in the same package, yippee!<p>Thank god it'll take them years to manufacture this thing.
It isn't being sold to the public. Of the three versions, the one that is "road ready" doesn't have the gimmicky thrusters. The one that is displayed is available by invite only, and even if you have a quarter of a million to reserve the racing model, you aren't likely to get a license plate for use on public roads.
They're not selling this to the public.<p>They'll make a handful that a select few billionaires will get to keep in a hanger somewhere for bragging rights.<p>There's a reason we don't see a driver in these demos and they don't do anything beyond very choreographed stunts. There's no way a human can actually control those thrusters in a way that doesn't kill you. Unless you're a fighter pilot.
My big question is, would anyone want one? It's an interesting life size hotwheels car but who would want one other than to show at a monster truck rally. The original Tesla Roadster was a masterpiece compared to this new one. Talk about missing the mark by a mile...
I suppose at least we can say there is a working car that seems to be able to actually do the things as advertised, which is more than one could ever say for e.g. the Moller Skycar.
Well we could examine the history here, for instance when he bought Twitter that it would immediately collapse (now its more popular than ever and Bluesky is the one that's falling apart) and when the Cybertruck was announced there were lots of people saying it could never be made: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21602437">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21602437</a>
It’s crazy how many Cybertrucks I see in my hometown, and I don’t live in that big of a city. They are incredibly popular. This car will be incredibly popular to. Peoples are getting bent out of shape about the “thrust” and “rocket” variants, but who cares? Those will be few and far between. For rich collectors mostly. How about just the base model? It looks wild, I’m sure it will be fun as hell to drive. They are going to sell a ton of these things.
Well I see no numbers saying how long it will fly. Perhaps it "hops", could easily see that happening with a burst of air below the car. (While standing still, accelerating the car upwards for 1 second with a burst of air)
Flying is obviously a gimmick, but when Elon said this will crush all track records he wasn’t kidding.<p>The base model has the suction fans which will make huge gains.<p>Next model up has rear thrusters for the acceleration, which will be more insane. It’s limited production.<p>Final model that can fly is invite only and will be a joke on the track, using those thrusters to go around corners way, way faster than normal.<p>I wish they had shown track laps and 1/4 mile times instead of the gimmick of flying.
I think calling it a scam is a crazy thing to say. Tesla has never not (eventually) shipped a product they said they would .<p>Also yes you can legally sell it. Whether you can legally operate it is a different question.
May I remind you of the promised 90 second battery swap…13 years ago? <a href="https://youtu.be/Oj6LaYFall4?si=RGE8mbZQFdElq0sq" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/Oj6LaYFall4?si=RGE8mbZQFdElq0sq</a>
The second generation Roadster (reservations for which opened in 2017) literally is the product they didn't ship.<p>Also Cybercab.<p>How many Optimus robots are out in the wild?<p>It is a scam, 100%.
The roadster hasn't shipped after 9 years. Including a referral program for preorders. I find it incredibly more insane to be trusting of this
He actually says in the video that it might not be legal to operate but they could still sell you one. Anything is legal off-road on your own private property.
There are a long list of cars that have not-really-legal abilities.<p>The corvette ZR-1 had a special key that would unlock all the performance. I don't think it met emissions when unlocked.<p>Lots of newer muscle cars have performance modes and dragstrip modes that you shouldn't use.<p>Even other teslas, like model 3 performance and model s plaid have have track mode and dragstrip mode that shouldn't be used on public streets.
He took preorders for the roadster nine years ago. It never shipped.
this is a new roadster, the previous roadster hasnt sold a unit
If you wanted another pretext to merge Tesla and SpaceX this would be a good way.<p>The existing tech fab plus this car maybe makes it harder to sue once the merger happens - but he will still be sued. “Look we’re making it rocket cars with AI of course we should be one company”
That’s why it’s invite only.
I mean is it ever actually being released? probably not.<p>Was it a an amazing demo? yes.
What are you talking about re: the battery pack?
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I was #12 Tesla Roadster owner. I spoke across the country with my father. We drove from coast to coast in 2014 at a time when there was a lot of doubt. — I supported elons “mission” and now we know it’s a neo Nazi front of a company. This company and Elon has been a scam since he stole JB Straubel. How do I know? JB Straubel is my father.
Unless I'm missing some obvious "/s" or "/jk", Straubel's Wiki page suggests that you're only 11 years old and weren't born until the year after you drove coast to coast in the Roadster, if we are to believe you.
I can't make soup of this. Your dad is a billionaire and you're left to fend for yourself? That's got to be some story.
Neo Nazi? Seems a bit much.
I think it’s real, the “invite only” version could probably do the kickflip over the semis, but would probably completely exhaust the tanks and require special equipment to refill or take hours with an onboard pump. And the flip is certainly a scripted stunt, not something you’d actually be able to do live. The math doesn’t seem to be completely unreasonable as a one off demo
They said there is a compressor to re-pressurize the tanks while driving. It made it sound like a power-up in a video game. You can't use it all the time, but if you wait for it to charge up, use it as many times as you want.<p>I think the bigger issue with be making it street legal. Kickflipping over traffic, and refusing visibility for everyone to 0 in the process, can't be good.<p>For closed courses, movies, etc it's really cool.
When I searched for Tesla on YouTube at the start of the event, the first live event returned was this, an AI generated Tesla presentation with Elon telling users to send bitcoin and he'll send you back double as a promotional event like an X Money thing: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5EDp2rEbFA" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5EDp2rEbFA</a>. The QR code went to this site: <a href="https://roadster.tv" rel="nofollow">https://roadster.tv</a>. I reported it to YouTube.
China has had flying cars since 2023 so I don't see how this is a scam. The flying mechanism is unique for the Roadster so that's still to be seen how it would perform out in public.<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpQZSBTi7k" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZpQZSBTi7k</a><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2c-B3y7yGQ" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2c-B3y7yGQ</a><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5viDOjWLw" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5viDOjWLw</a><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSjXf7IUSDw" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSjXf7IUSDw</a>
wow i did not realise this. are there videos of these flying cars? can you buy them?
The only one I can think that they might mean is the BYD Yangwang U9. It can jump a tiny bit.
There's also a real life speeder bike from Star Wars, if you've got an extra million dollars sitting around.<p><a href="https://volonaut.com/" rel="nofollow">https://volonaut.com/</a>
XPeng has been spruiking flying cars (really just giant quadcopters) for a while now, but while they exist and can fly, they're more of a publicity stunt. For example, while you can buy the X2 in Australia, you can't legally fly it.<p><a href="https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/australias-first-flying-car-now-on-sale" rel="nofollow">https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/australias-first-flyin...</a>
Yep, just google: china flying cars. They're basically human sized drones/quadcopters.
I mean, Tesla demoed, promised, and took reservation money for a roadster reboot that _also_ didn't contain any technology China didn't have in 2017, and at this point they still haven't delivered on that and it feels safe to call it a scam.<p>Just because the technology is technically feasible doesn't mean that a specific company is not scamming you when they promise it.<p>And Tesla already has enough of a history of fake promises (your tesla will be a self-driving robotaxi earning money while you sleep within a few years, FSD will take you across the country while you sleep by next year, humanoid robots, the new roadster is taking reservations now and will deliver soon, regulation is the only thing holding up FSD, etc etc).
I mean it looks cool but considering they haven't produced any of the other Roadster models in any meaningful quantity, and have repeatedly come up short on much more reasonable product offerings... Idk I have just the slightest doubt about a flying electric car hitting the market any time soon. Hasn't it been nearly a decade since the promise of a software update that would turn your Tesla into a self-driving taxi that can earn money while you're not using it?
none of these are videos of flying cars
Okay, that's some of the most impressive feats I've ever seen. Congratulations to the engineers!
I could have used that when leaving Costco last Saturday.
Anyone know the physics of mach diamonds purely from compressed gas? I'm not a physicist, but I thought one of the key aspects of compressed gas is that it <i>can't</i> expand faster than the speed of sound in that gas -- the speed of sound is literally the limit to how fast it can expand?
Production and other realities aside, I've seen some cool shit in my life and this demo is high up there! Did you guys catch 0.5 mach target top speed? That's 600kmh. It'd better do that flying because there probably aren't any rubber tyres that could endure that before exploding within seconds.
Can this be scaled down to a Roomba? Then it would both be more useful at picking stuff up off the floor, and able to recover from falling down the stairs.
Good on Elon for putting out a car that embodies his best trait, sucking as hard as possible.
The fact that the one that can fly is invite-only makes me wonder if there would be ITAR issues with the guidance mechanisms that they have to put into it.<p>I'm not saying that there aren't lower hanging fruit reasons why they wouldn't make more of those, but you can see how the guidance necessary to make this move the way that it does could be dual use.
I suspect it's more because some rando could actually try to use it in public space. The invite only means they could send it to people who will give them good PR, are known not to be idiots, and can be invited to sign many responsibility disclaimers.
That makes a ton of sense, yes! To be honest, I was wondering less about their reasons for invite-only and more about whether this kind of gentle and precise guidance with cold gas thrusters might hit ITAR.
This is an incredible feat of engineering. I have my doubts of the 2028 mass production timeline, but I am quite amazed.
Genuinely impressed, incredible demo
> an expertly crafted extra-terrestrial vehicle.<p>hmmmm. spacex-tesla merger signalling?
aka a $245,000 loan to tesla with no interest for 10 years
They first started taking deposits on the Roadster 9 years ago in 2017 with a 2020 production date. It’ll be shocking if they ever sell this car they showed today. If they do, it’ll be many years late, not fly, and cost twice what they are saying. Just like the CyberTruck.
The one that doesn’t fly is only a $45,000 loan
I watched the ~16 minute presentation on YouTube and it was as if Elon and the two other guys presenting were doing a skit at a talent show. They seemed extremely unprepared. Maybe they were intentionally trying to come across as off the cuff, but it felt unnatural and cringey. Together they have the charisma of a paper clip. These guys are so full of themselves that it’s difficult to appreciate whatever accomplishment this may or may not be. And, of course, no
way it will be street legal with air thrusters. What a complete joke.
When presenting the world with a flying car, one doesn't need much extra charisma, the demo does it all. I think most people would be pretty excited (or full of themselves) knowing what they were about to show.
The suction and air recovery part might be forward thinking for how we design roads or tunnels. They might not all need to be flat. Especially when autonomous.
<i>> It challenges the limits of design, engineering and physics to deliver an expertly crafted extra-terrestrial vehicle.</i><p>closed tab. thanks.
Been a while since I was impressed with a tech presentation. I was waiting for a clear case of AI assisted movement ( though I personally expected to see it for the first time in a military chopper ).<p>**<p>Side note, as I was looking for the right stream, youtube gave me a link to a different deep fake 'Musk' stream where he extolled virtues of sending him money ( <a href="https://roadster-tesla.com/#participate" rel="nofollow">https://roadster-tesla.com/#participate</a> ). Everything has changed man. I am sure the scammer actually got some people.
I mean, this is the gimmicky of gimmicks for the ultra-rich.<p>It just means you can do jumps and stunts programmed into the vehicle at the push of a button with zero skill at being a stunt driver.<p>The Dukes of Hazzard had to do that without the thrusters.<p>Can't wait to see how people kill themselves and other people with those things by being stupid...<p>Hopefully that shit gets blocked by the DOT and kept off public roads--which is probably the goal to get a bunch of drooling simps outraged over "government overreach" keeping them away from their "flying cars".
The real feat would be to actually ship the gas-equipped models. The on-stage demonstration was certainly quite impressive but handling real world terrain is a whole different story. Not to mention compensating for drivers who will skew lead-footed without any experience of handling a third dimension.<p>I am skeptical that this feature will prove to be much more than a publicity stunt, especially since the availability of these models will be so limited.
I've been recently playing a game called Approximately Up. You start from simple building blocks, thrusters and can use the in game logic system to build complex controls. One of the things I came about to learn was something to make a hover system for my ship was a simple PID controller. The side and bottom firing thrusters just remind me of my ship in the game. While the game is oversimplified and a bit arcadey, does anyone know what actually goes into this in the real life and is the huge feat the improvement on the weight of the whole car?
I dig the commitment to the low poly look! Really cool and fits in with the new design direction.
The video goes against my intuition for how much performance you can get out of cold gas thrusters. I wonder if someone could do some back of the envelope maths on how much thrust and impulse you can get from a setup like this?<p>My primary scepticism is how much the prototype weighs, and whether it can still jump with 2 passengers + 1000kg of batteries inside.
Based on the statement that the suction fan generates 2g of downforce, and the telemetry showing the fan operating at 4,700 kg @ ~95% load, the vehicle weighs approximately 2,300 to 2,500 kg.
I never thought I'd live to see K.I.T.T
Flying cars before GTA6.
The rocket flip part looks like CGI, in my opinion. I get the same feeling as when I see CGI on some random B movie. Would be happy to be proven wrong if there was a crowd of people filming from their angle though.<p>Also "Beyond The Limits of Physics"... would any actual engineers at Tesla/SpaceX agree with that marketing statement?
Is the copy grok's writing style? It feels inhuman but still more readable than Opus
Tesla hitting their lambo era?
What's up with wheels not being round anymore? How is that supposed to work? I understand it for Formula 1, but for real world driving, it doesn't make any sense
Rocket-inspired design hints at desire to merge Tesla and SpaceX?
So it can fly?<p>Just like we will have 1 million robotaxis on the streets by 2021?<p>EDIT: wow it really can fly, that is crazy
Other thread <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50112380">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50112380</a>
I must be old. I just keep thinking about what kind of whiplash I'd get with those flips
At least this one doesn't look horrible. I can't see myself buying it, but I don't feel like I want to gag either.
I hate Tesla for their politics, broken promises, and all the drama that we are all aware and tired of hearing about.
That being said, that was the coolest damn thing I've ever seen a car do.<p>I don't think there's any doubt in anyone's mind that it'll never make production like this, but what I see as being demonstrated is a suborbital lander/off-world ground transport concept that can work in low gravity environments etc. This will aid autonomous delivery vehicles etc to be dropped from low orbit and find their own landing sites, and then drive to location.<p>I wonder how many maimed kerbals are stranded around the space X facility while testing this.
Very cool stuff but all the "extra-terrestrial" stuff is complete bunk. This thing wouldn't survive Max-Q, let alone any kind of landing that isn't on a clean slab of concrete. It's a cool rich person toy, no other notes.
You miss my point. They're demonstrating a landing system, it's just wrapped up in a car to fool the idiots that are going to pre-purchase it <i>again</i> so they can use that money to build more space X technology.<p>The car is just a façade.<p>Edit: And to expand on this. Owners of GM T.50' say they can't use the ground effect fan anywhere in public due to the debris it picks up and throws, and are ineffective on anything but near perfect roads. So that's not impressive to me. And the jet boosters are also ridiculous, there is not real-world application where you could use them outside of completely closed environments with no one nearby. It's a huge investment into reaction thrusters for a car that would never, ever be used - unless it was to demonstrate thruster technology for another reason.<p>i.e. Space X.
What is this wonderful "autonomous delivery vehicle" capable of delivering?<p>Also, assuming the delivery vehicle is destroyed at the end of each "delivery", what will it cost?
If this is real, it's going to kill people.
It can fly? Wow! What a time to be alive!
So they are going to send one of to space again?
As a father of a growing family, I am still waiting for the RoBovan.
A car that jumps - am I missing something? The speed numbers are cool.
Nice Testarossa!
Are they serious about the rocket version??
Is that the Draco engine?<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Draco" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpaceX_Draco</a>
The engineering team did an amazing job!
Relevant.<p>* The Fastest Maze-Solving Competition On Earth - YouTube // <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQbHMgK2rw" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMQbHMgK2rw</a>
> Our multi-mode fan and ground sealing system acts as a downforce generator, pulling air out from beneath the vehicle. This provides enough suction to hold the vehicle upside down, even when stationary.<p>Bullshit, no it can't.<p>> Advanced cold-gas thrusters use all-electric actuators to offer precise thrust, completing micro adjustments within a fraction of a second. This helps stabilize the vehicle in flight.<p>In <i>flight</i>? What? Did I miss the joke, or what? It's a fucking car... The image even shows it hovering off the ground. How is this not blatant false advertising?<p>ETA: okay, skimmed some of the livestream. These is absolutely no way that any of these features will ever be part of a production model. People get serious whiplash injuries just from being rear-ended at low speed. What do they think is going to happen to the occupant when they tell their car to jump over a semi and do a fucking barrel roll? Seriously, what are we doing here?
Amazing such instant expertise.<p>Watch the video - the car jumps into the air. Not exactly flight or what we’d consider a flying car, but it’s careering through the air off the ground.
It's supposed to be funny. Or it's not? Really not sure.
This isn't even the first car to demo holding and driving upside down using a ground effect fan: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LYcgaQ46c" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6LYcgaQ46c</a>
There is another car [1] with a fan to improve downforce.<p>[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Murray_Automotive_T.50" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Murray_Automotive_T.50</a>
Watch the livestream
> Bullshit, no it can't<p>I mean, this isn't crazy. In fact, it's already been done. Ever heard of McMurtry? (<a href="https://mcmurtry.com/" rel="nofollow">https://mcmurtry.com/</a>). They're notorious for exactly this - using fans to provide extreme downforce (urr... upforce if you're hanging upside down?).<p>> In flight?<p>Did you see the stunt where it literally flew over vehicles? I mean, maybe it's a bit closer to a controlled super-leap like the original Superman, but... yeah, my personal reaction to that was more "holy shit" than "well, that's not flying".
>> Our multi-mode fan and ground sealing system acts as a downforce generator, pulling air out from beneath the vehicle. This provides enough suction to hold the vehicle upside down, even when stationary.<p>> Bullshit, no it can't.<p>A proof of concept already exists:<p><a href="https://mcmurtry.com/upside-down-driving/" rel="nofollow">https://mcmurtry.com/upside-down-driving/</a>
If you scroll down on the page, it shows that the "rocket edition" is invite-only. Probably gonna sell it to a few friends in hopes that the 3-5 they make sell for millions down the road, so to speak.
I absolutely detest the leadership and what he is actively doing to this country... but holy fucking shit. I want to reserve one, but when you're broke as a joke... ooph.
Very COOL, I like this Roadster retro style
Is this a broken link for anyone else?
So Elon's entities are really using SI instead of AI? Interesting. Or was he the one who actually suggested the name change to POTUS?
You can hate the man, but you must respect him. Flying cars have truly arrived.
At this point this is some sort of IQ test right?
I'd buy one for the police chases. Hell yes. Not that I'm in the billionaire invite-only inner circle, and not that they'll ever ship it.
Is this a gas that needs to be refilled with the cold thrust one?
He has finally gone bonkers. Drugs are bad, mmmmkay.<p>Imagine the engineer hours wasted on this gimmick, while he is losing market share everywhere.
Yay the (almost) 10th anniversary of the 2nd generation Roadster reservations, and now it's got fucking rockets apparently?<p>How delusional are people? The emperor is not wearing clothes y'all.
Unavailable to visit?
Sorry about the eggs honey, I had to use the thrusters to get past this cyclist.
Ai slop on a billion dollar company should tell you everything you know about how we are doomed by this ai experiment
I cant wait to see what type of batshit crazy motorsport series they invent for these.
"Tony Hawk would be called, we call that the kickflip."<p>Uh what? Rodney Mullen invented the kickflip<p>Reminds me of this
<a href="https://youtu.be/LC97wdQOmfI" rel="nofollow">https://youtu.be/LC97wdQOmfI</a>
Yes, Rodney Mullen invented the kickflip (and damn near every other skate trick), but the reference here comes from a time when Tony Hawk would drive around and yell "do a kickflip" at skaters, if they did a kickflip he would sometimes give them a signed board or other things. Example video - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob0dI05Xz8s" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob0dI05Xz8s</a> - it became a thing for a little where people would yell "do a kickflip" at skaters they saw on the street.
Reading some of this feels like I’m having a stroke.<p>>This provides enough suction to hold the vehicle upside down, even when stationary.<p>Neat car though.
Wow, this might be the most phenomenal tech demo I've ever watched.<p>This is just amazing, congrats to everyone who worked on this.<p>From an engineering pov, it must be the highlight of someone's life and a massive amount of fun to be able to work on a product like this.
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Technology: spectacular, design: ugly as fuck
Technically very impressive. I wonder if they'll actually produce and sell any of these.<p>And too bad it's associated with a Nazi shitheel. That takes a lot of the joy out of this.
Listen, if you rightfully believe Elon Musk is a white supremacist piece of shit who used his wealth to buy his way in to Trump's regime to steal huge amounts of data on the american public and who attempts to influence foreign democracies and who promotes far right conspiracies, please don't buy his fucking cars.
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It was fine? I'd rather this than hyper rehearsed CGI human Apple launch video. At least its just real people talking like humans.
I can’t do a tech demo of a simple software feature on zoom without at least one thing messing up. They launched a car off a ramp live and were honest from the beginning of the stream it might not work.<p>The last decade of social media has shown that humans care more about authenticity than perfection in presentations.
It did work! The point is they did a terrible job of producing the event and being clear what they were talking about and showing the product. The product, for all four people who will be able to buy it ("invite only"), seems very cool. But that is not what I was commenting on!
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Pretty big nothingburger. Production starts 2028 and honestly, the taunted feature... it's not a flying car, it's a jumping car. Do people actually want this for themselves? I'd wager the valuation would go down after this presentation.
I never thought I would say this, but.. have you been like.. born 70 or something?
Bro the car literally jumped over a semi like its the TF2 soldier. Nothingburger???
Kind of disturbing how hard he's leaning into the futurism aesthetic here, given its history.
Tesla has been doing this for a while, having all their promo shots at night etc. The terafab announcement stuff has an especially dystopian vibe
I mean, he also did a straight-up Nazi salute. We already know the guy is a fascist.
I guess robotaxi is failing? This is my only explanation of that jumping gimmick.
Still with the deadly door-handles that first responders can't open, I see.<p><a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-tesla-dangerous-doors/" rel="nofollow">https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-tesla-dangerous-door...</a>
Yea, i was going to reserve one of these sub 1 sec 0-60 vehicles with rocket motors and suction fans, but then I didnt because of the ergonomics of the door handle design.
If you watched the video, which you didn't, you'd know it appears to have a traditional door latch with recessed handles.