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  • jvanderbot23 minutes ago
    Rule #1 of reading CS papers - don&#x27;t trust the anthropomorphized terms. Rule #2 - definitely don&#x27;t extrapolate those terms to the real mind.<p>Of course, attention is almost certainly a heuristic readers use, but to even bring it up as key to intelligence begs so many questions about LLMs and the mind...
    • kelseyfrog20 minutes ago
      Why not? Who has earned a monopoly on anti-anthropomorphism?
      • jvanderbot15 minutes ago
        It&#x27;s misleading. When it&#x27;s right, it&#x27;s right by coincidence, since the vast majority of <i>algorithmic</i> terms that seem like they should provide insight into the human mind, like &quot;attention&quot; could just as easily be called &quot;finger&quot; or &quot;tape head&quot;.<p>And suddenly we&#x27;re looking at people who read ticker tape or by following with their finger for insights into neuroscience?
      • parodysbird12 minutes ago
        It&#x27;s bad metaphysics. If you really want to do bad metaphysics, then you can, but it&#x27;s also hardly an attack on you if others promote norms of not doing bad metaphysics.
  • 0xWTF18 minutes ago
    This is the core insight, some in the original grad student author&#x27;s own words:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quantamagazine.org&#x2F;is-attention-the-essence-of-intelligence-20261012&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quantamagazine.org&#x2F;is-attention-the-essence-of-i...</a><p>&quot;Sentences with pronouns such as “it” in them illustrate the challenge that attention overcomes. Consider: “The animal didn’t cross the street because it was too tired.” And: “The animal didn’t cross the street because it was too wide.” To translate these sentences correctly into French, an AI model must determine that, in the first one, “it” refers to the animal, which is a masculine word in French, so the translation should use that form of the pronoun, il. But in the second sentence, “it” refers to the street, a feminine word that requires a different pronoun, elle. How can the machine figure this out?&quot;<p>&quot;Bahdanau remembered doing translation exercises when he was learning English in school. To write each next word of his translated sentence, he’d have to glance all around the source text to figure out what should come next. “Literally you have your source sentence on the left and your writing on the right, and you’ll be, like, turning your head, left-right, left-right,” he said. “That process is what I expressed as a neural mechanism.”<p>That simplicity seems to me the real tell that this is the real insight. The author does a good job of walking the ready past a long list of distractors and conjuring a sense of a path to an insight, and then, there&#x27;s the insight - a simple encoding of a simple task: &quot;What is the next word? How do <i>I</i> figure that out? Left-right. Left-right&quot;
  • wyager14 minutes ago
    An IMO under-appreciated aspect of attention is that it&#x27;s an ingredient for building a Turing-complete evaluator, since (for example) it lets you implement mutable RAM by treating the attended data as a write log: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;yager.io&#x2F;neural&#x2F;turing&#x2F;turing.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;yager.io&#x2F;neural&#x2F;turing&#x2F;turing.html</a>
    • tomrod5 minutes ago
      This IS interesting and nifty!
  • greenavocado26 minutes ago
    That would be pattern recognition
  • calf34 minutes ago
    I thought it was scaling
  • coolboy117 minutes ago
    Wait until you find out the universe is just a 3d attention mechanism with light as the positional encoding.
  • readthenotes155 minutes ago
    Among my peers, some would want to interpret &quot;it was tired&quot; to mean that the road had too many vehicles on it.
  • hsavit137 minutes ago
    barely have enough attention to read through the subtitle