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  • hn_submit26 minutes ago
    I&#x27;ve always been amazed why the 2CV is seen as a styling icon. It&#x27;s a bare-bones car from the 1930&#x27;s which didn&#x27;t get produced until the late 40&#x27;s due to the war. By the time production ramped up it was hopelessly outdated.<p>The only thing positive that can be said about the modern iteration is its $15K price. But for that money you&#x27;re not getting a <i>real</i> car but a city roundabout with very limited range and speed. The Chinese BYD Seagull is a real car for $10,000 which is quite large to boot.<p>It&#x27;s positive that European carmakers are finally catering to the wallets of their customers. No one is clamoring for an electric $50K VW Rabbit (VW Golf).
    • pjc503 minutes ago
      Citroen have always been distinctive &quot;love it or hate it&quot; about their looks, but in this case they&#x27;ve seen what Renault are doing (selling 5&#x27;s as fast as they can make them) and decided to get in on the action by doing a similar retro reference.<p>&gt; No one is clamoring for an electric $50K VW Rabbit (VW Golf).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cleantechnica.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;10&#x2F;03&#x2F;europe-ev-sales-report-record-month-bevs-reach-30-market-share&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cleantechnica.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;10&#x2F;03&#x2F;europe-ev-sales-report-...</a><p>The ID4 is about Golf-sized, costs about 45kE, and is sitting at #6 on the EV sales chart.
    • weinzierl1 minute ago
      <i>&quot;I&#x27;ve always been amazed why the 2CV is seen as a styling icon.&quot;</i><p>Style icon? Maybe you are thinking of the DS.<p>The 2CV was commonly considered ugly so much that in Germany it was only known as <i>Ugly Duckling</i>, despite being a popular car there.
    • robotmay18 minutes ago
      I think a lot of the popular classics are often because they were unique, not necessarily beautiful, and often the most popular tend to be some of the most ubiquitous models that were designed for the everyman, e.g. the 2CV, VW Beetle, VW Camper etc. I suspect they become stylish by association with the periods in which they were popular and the people who owned them, rather than because their own styling is great.<p>I always thought the Citroen vans of the era were very cool, I&#x27;d love to see a modern van design based on the H, for example.
    • ekr18 minutes ago
      There&#x27;s no new electric car for less than €17800, in the Netherlands at least. The BYD&#x27;s start at around €20k. Only the Dacia Spring and the Leapmotor T03 are available under that price point. So if something was to be available for €15k and if it&#x27;s highway capable, I&#x27;m sure it will sell decently well.
    • Mashimo18 minutes ago
      &gt; The Chinese BYD Seagull is a real car for $10,000 which is quite large to boot.<p>I think the Seagull cost ~20 000 to 22 000 EUR in a lot of European countries. Who knows what the Citroen 2CV will cost in china.
    • fstephany10 minutes ago
      The proposed M1E car category in the EU (more or less the european equivalent to the japanese kei cars) might boost this segment of smaller, cheaper cars.
    • Arodex1 minute ago
      &gt;I&#x27;ve always been amazed why the 2CV is seen as a styling icon<p>Round curves and lights looking like eyes, with proportions close to a human face.<p>The same design cues that made the VW Beetle and the Mazda Miata (1st gen) popular cars.<p>And &quot;barebones&quot; can be a quality. Citroen did tons of overcomplicated cars too, and for all the love I have towards the DS, the CX, the SM etc., they all suffered and keep suffering of reliability problems that killed them commercially and to keep them running nowadays.
  • PorciiVorbesc53 minutes ago
    <i>&gt;As they face mounting competition from Chinese manufacturers, Citroen and other European brands are exploiting their heritage as a means of selling modern motors</i><p>Heritage and vintage looks, will only take you so far. Working class people still choose best bang&#x2F;range for the buck car since their car is a tool, not a fashion statement bag.
    • YesThatTom234 minutes ago
      Point taken but I’m pretty sure working class people choose based on initial cost, not bang&#x2F;range for the buck.
    • skywal_l46 minutes ago
      There must be the equivalent for &quot;first as a tragedy then as a comedy&quot; saying for commercial product. &quot;first as a tool then as a totem&quot; or something like that.
    • epolanski27 minutes ago
      Citroen is already the Stellantis&#x27; equivalent of Skoda niche for Volkswagen.
      • pjc506 minutes ago
        Skoda are doing great with the Elroq at #2, just behind the Model Y: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cleantechnica.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;10&#x2F;03&#x2F;europe-ev-sales-report-record-month-bevs-reach-30-market-share&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cleantechnica.com&#x2F;2026&#x2F;10&#x2F;03&#x2F;europe-ev-sales-report-...</a><p>Stellantis do seem to sandbag their EVs a bit with batteries that don&#x27;t quiiiite have as much range as competitors.
  • forestingfisher56 minutes ago
    I&#x27;m really digging Citroen&#x27;s design recently. Along with Renault and Hyundai, they feel like cars from the future instead of the bloated aggressive and angular design we&#x27;ve come to expect
  • sl-134 minutes ago
    I hope they succeed, but probably will fail with too complex design. Original 2cv is wonderfully simple. If they can keep that simplicity, they will win.
  • sdcfgy50 minutes ago
    I rather like this. Apart from the interior. Hopefully a production design will have some of the idealisms from the designer removed and replaced with more practical choices. It is however a near ideal cheaper end car for most European countries.
    • robotmay31 minutes ago
      If they actually deliver something for their target price of around £13k then I&#x27;d be very impressed - that would truly be embracing the 2CV heritage in making something attainable for the people.<p>And agreed, I quite like this design. It doesn&#x27;t feel as bulky as many modern &quot;retro&quot; cars, like the Mini variants.
    • epolanski26 minutes ago
      Point is: those cars differentiate little to nothing among themselves except in design gimmicks.<p>The latest Grande Panda is an example of that.
  • thomasfl44 minutes ago
    There is nothing wrong with nostalgia. Some property developers makes money from nostalgic architecture. Fashion clothing is often a mix of new and nostalgia.
    • m00028 minutes ago
      The problem in this case (and many others) is that nostalgia is limited to the form, bordering on fetishism, while the utilitarian and economic aspects of the original are brushed aside.<p>From TFA: &quot;The car had high wheel arches and soft suspension, letting it travel across a ploughed field or rough roads - as legend would have it, without breaking a tray of duck eggs. Its high roof let drivers wear a hat at the wheel. It was easy to drive and simple to repair.&quot;<p>Which of those qualities have been retained in this 2CV revival?
      • robotmay24 minutes ago
        Well the suspension is less of an issue these days due to technical advances. Ground clearance is more of an issue than the suspension travel. This looks more like it&#x27;s targeted towards city use than the countryside use of the original, especially as it looks to have a notably shorter wheelbase. There&#x27;s a usecase for small city cars that look cute though.
      • Mashimo15 minutes ago
        Why does it need the same qualities as the old car?<p>People want cheap and small electric city cars, why not make it in the style of an iconic car? We already have plenty of mid sized cars that look all the same.
  • ginko15 minutes ago
    I wouldn&#x27;t want to be hit by those headlights as a pedestrian..
  • spankibalt18 minutes ago
    Who in the name of the Twelve Hells did they hire to fuck up one of the greatest utilitarian car designs (especially in its <i>Fourgonnette</i> iteration)?