17 comments

  • igor471 hour ago
    &gt; Unfortunately, Nadella also refers to AI as “super intelligence” throughout the post.<p>What&#x27;s the deal with these clowns? Nadella&#x27;s estimated net worth is like $600M. Is that still not enough for him to buy himself a spine?
    • kumarvvr59 minutes ago
      At 600M, if keeping a spine has a risk of slight reduction in that wealth, then the spine is thrown out in a jiffy.<p>No rich man or woman is a friend of society.<p>That is why governments fear revolt from the poor. They have nothing more to lose.
    • timcobb1 hour ago
      No he&#x27;s an automaton optimizing for status
    • dumberquestions54 minutes ago
      Not having a spine goes a long way when you&#x27;re trying to make billions.
      • khazhoux44 minutes ago
        If he stands up to Trump, Trump declares Microsoft a national security threat and decimates the company. That’s what this is about.
    • downrightmike4 minutes ago
      Actual Indians &gt; Super Indians
    • tbrownaw59 minutes ago
      I would expect people selling AI to like that term for marketing reasons, completely independent of their opinion of the person who provided a crystallization point to organize the terminology change around.
    • bushbaba1 hour ago
      You assume he’s a human and not a super intelligent being himself
      • Xirdus1 hour ago
        I am pretty sure he&#x27;s not super intelligent.
    • 8note10 minutes ago
      the spine here is going with a deeply unpopular guy&#x27;s dumb opinions and getting the hate mail
    • NordStreamYacht1 hour ago
      He has to keep The Orange House happy.
      • dudeinjapan54 minutes ago
        ELI5 why he needs to please the Dutch royal family?
        • anon772543 minutes ago
          The Orange House, not the House of Orange.<p>See also: Peoples’ Front of Judea vs Judean Peoples Front.
    • coliveira1 hour ago
      He wouldn&#x27;t have this net worth if he ever had a spine. Mind you, he&#x27;s very tough to people under him, and that&#x27;s a very important characteristic of this kind of people, but he really doesn&#x27;t have a spine.
    • khazhoux46 minutes ago
      His own net worth isn’t the point.<p>Bend the knee or Trump will destroy your company. And every Republican in Congress is cool with that.
    • blagie1 hour ago
      I don&#x27;t quite see the problem here.<p>My AI is regularly solving master&#x27;s thesis level, and sometimes Ph.D thesis level problems for the purpose of, e.g. routine tasks like filling out random paperwork.<p>It&#x27;s been very odd.<p>I&#x27;d only assume Nadella has access to more advanced models than I do, just as much as I have more advanced models than my relatives.
      • UnlockedSecrets54 minutes ago
        Can you ask your AI to answer the ultimate question, that being the answer to life, the universe, and everything?
        • jonah27 minutes ago
          I hadn&#x27;t tried that question before. Gemini knew the answer.
      • idiotsecant52 minutes ago
        Because it&#x27;s a political loyalty test. Nobody started using it organically until they were ordered to in order to prove their loyalty.<p>Using it is embarrassing.
        • dofm28 minutes ago
          It&#x27;s a bit more than a mere loyalty test, in that Trump knows it is <i>humiliating</i> for them to listen to him on anything like this.<p>He knows humiliation (from his father and from Putin) and he loves to dish it out to others.<p>This is Reek, basically.
          • Terr_15 minutes ago
            Right, and humiliation rituals are not <i>just</i> about the authoritarian&#x27;s ego, they do damage that the authoritarian exploits.<p>People who comply scar their reputation and trustworthiness, so that it&#x27;s harder for them to build any alliance against the authoritarian in the future, ex: &quot;We all know Bob lied to keep his job... But if they threaten his job again, doesn&#x27;t that mean he might lie <i>to us</i> too?&quot;
  • butwhentho48 minutes ago
    Should I then assume that Copilot is &quot;compromised&quot;, and given that they&#x27;ve shoehorned it into all Microsoft products, then, by extension, that means all Microsoft products are compromised?
  • thih91 hour ago
    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wallhop.io&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;ai-artificial-intelligence&#x2F;1009337&#x2F;satya-nadella-says-we-should-assume-all-ai-models-are-compromised" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wallhop.io&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;ai-artificial-in...</a><p>(wallhop is a 12ft.io alternative I noticed on hn earlier: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50038634">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50038634</a> )
  • tbrownaw50 minutes ago
    Well of course.<p>If you blindly assume it works and it doesn&#x27;t, that&#x27;s a problem.<p>If your process can handle it not working, it&#x27;s much less of a problem.
  • rsalus1 hour ago
    I assume he&#x27;s referring to the long-standing Microsoft engineering principles of &quot;zero trust&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learn.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;security&#x2F;zero-trust&#x2F;zero-trust-overview" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learn.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;security&#x2F;zero-trust&#x2F;zero-t...</a><p>and &quot;least privilege&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learn.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;entra&#x2F;identity-platform&#x2F;secure-least-privileged-access" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;learn.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;entra&#x2F;identity-platform&#x2F;se...</a>
    • greenthrow1 hour ago
      Microsoft didn&#x27;t invent either of those concepts. They are long standing security principles. Especially least privilege.
      • dudeinjapan50 minutes ago
        Microsoft invented those principles when they added UAC to Windows Vista. Also, Al Gore invented the Internet.
  • dcmatt48 minutes ago
    &gt; More advanced models will require more advanced containment technologies that we need to standardize on.<p>How about yanking the cords, or maybe a big red “shutdown” button
  • xscott1 hour ago
    Someone will vibe-code Office and Windows, and he knows it.
    • Xirdus1 hour ago
      Didn&#x27;t someone vibe code Photoshop this week?
    • steelframe11 minutes ago
      Maybe I am living in a bubble, but no company I have worked at in the past 15 years has cared in the least about either Windows or Office.
  • sandeepkd1 hour ago
    so the grapes are sour for some after all
  • khaled4vokalz59 minutes ago
    Yeah, after having a meeting at the Oval office, it&#x27;s for sure everyone got taught by our bro &quot;Dario&quot; regarding containing things as the Chinese are catching up. Give this a break...
  • vehemenz33 minutes ago
    Once again, why do all these CEOs think they are thought leaders all of a sudden?
    • monksy20 minutes ago
      Basis - in short: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=0uwfOWYchpI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=0uwfOWYchpI</a>
    • bmitc7 minutes ago
      Rich people in general have this belief, that they somehow got there by objective means and via their superior intellect. I just watched an interview the other day that someone posted where Sam Altman described using a notebook (yes literally pencil and paper) but was describing it as if he had discovered fire. These people are literally blinded by their money.
  • TZubiri26 minutes ago
    Here&#x27;s a video of Nadella speaking about AI a year ago.<p>I couldn&#x27;t for the life of me understand him, it sounded like when someone I know did cocaine and spent like 8 hours per day with ChatGPT and developed their own internal vocabulary, right around peak AI psychosis era with 4o as well.<p>One thing you can hear is that he was super excited about AI, which is very obvious by how Copilot was slapped everywhere. And now that the market is expressing their backlash about AI they are just hopping on the bandwagon.<p>But I remember, and I think the MSFT customers will remember how AI was slapped into everything INCLUDING NOTEPAD.EXE
  • stogot1 hour ago
    I was expecting he was going to finally acknowledge these are trained on CSAM, been compromised and used to perpetuate abusive crimes.
  • ulfw56 minutes ago
    Satya Nadella is compromised as he just does whatever Fuhrer Trump wants. Mr. SI.
  • hardeepcoder1 hour ago
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  • ChrisArchitect39 minutes ago
    Source: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;satyanadella&#x2F;status&#x2F;2108931348857827686" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;satyanadella&#x2F;status&#x2F;2108931348857827686</a> (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50035193">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=50035193</a>)
  • SadErn1 hour ago
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  • gexla51 minutes ago
    I don&#x27;t get why using “super intelligence” is an issue here. It seems the US admin sort of politicized this and now US companies have their own reasons for selecting terms that may not make sense to people who aren&#x27;t making the same decisions.<p>Everything else seems reasonable? Assume the worst and put the controls in place to handle that scenario? Isn&#x27;t this how we approach security normally?<p>NOTE: NOT a security expert, so I may be talking out of my...
    • davesque24 minutes ago
      Because it&#x27;s creepy and Orwellian, not to mention hypocritical (MAGA is supposed to hate thought policing). Do you like people telling you what words you can and cannot use?
    • khazhoux43 minutes ago
      Because literally one person came up with that term, just to put their own stamp on it.
      • dofm27 minutes ago
        Not just to put their own stamp on it. To force others to use it.
        • khazhoux21 minutes ago
          Naming it is taking credit for it. “No one’s done as much for tech as me!”<p>Forcing others to use it is just par for the course with this administration
      • jiggawatts27 minutes ago
        It is a loyalty test, of the type favoured by dictators, emperors, and heads of mafia families everywhere.<p>America is lost.