The Hierarchy of Money

(gregorygundersen.com)

46 points by gwgundersen2 hours ago

5 comments

Wilsoniumite13 minutes ago
As someone who works at a financial institution, this is a really refreshing and concise breakdown of money and monetary systems. I think the most important thing that people should realise from reading this is that none of the things we have in our monetary systems were dreamed up for no reason, each solves a clear problem, and often was found by multiple independent groups of people at different times. I absolutely love the fact that it's essentially just layers of trust, analogous to a certificate authority or a domain name system.And, of course, that the top level of trust is a bit arbitrary, and that "black money", of course the US Dollar, isn't worth more than trust in the US government.
hypfer1 hour ago
I feel like this is either AI-generated or severely lacks context.There might be a point in there, but it might also just be paragraphs of text with little structure joined together.What's the narrative? What does this want to tell me? And why?Something like an opening header block with 2-5 sentences would go a long way.
- jubilanti27 minutes ago
 It is also totally wrong. I got to the third block and quit, as this is just an LLM bullshit version of the 18th century bullshit fantasy of the origin of money (see David Graeber's Debt).You can't describe how various forms of monetary value work in the modern monetary system as if it were a rural village with physical items, because it is fundamentally different.
 - hyperhello6 minutes ago
 It introduced vocabulary well enough though? I get that the specifics were all apocryphal.
- RivieraKid1 hour ago
 I just copy-paste the text and ask AI to summarize for 90% of articles I see on HN. One of the most time-saving uses of AI.
 - hypfer1 hour ago
 That answers the what, but not the why. The why however I'd argue is a lot more interesting.Also, you can often derive the what if you know the why and just follow the thread and map it out.
 - pasquinelli49 minutes ago
 doesn't that mean you spend time reading the summary of articles you wouldn't have read on your own, and thus it wastes time?
markvdb1 hour ago
The part where the bat wielding despot required payment using the money of his issue was left out.
stymaar1 hour ago
> The villagers are tired of barteringCome on… It's been known for more than a century that bartering has never been the default mean of exchange among humans, can we kill this myth eventually?!
- zahrevsky50 minutes ago
 Not only bartering has never been the default mean of exchange, but also the idea that money were created to optimize the trading process is also wrong.For an item to become currency in a society, it must already be something people value independently of its use as money, and people must expect others to accept it as well. Say the villagers live near the sea and find some beautiful shiny stones that everyone wants. Those stones can then become currency.A good example of this is tobacco in colonial America. It came to be used as currency because it was already widely traded and valued.
- compiler-guy1 hour ago
 This is obviously not an attempt at anything remotely resembling documentary history. It’s more of a just so story explaining what problem each step solved.Unless of course one thinks that smooth gray stones from a riverbed two miles away reflects some historically significant point in money’s evolution.
 - jubilanti16 minutes ago
 I'm not going to explain David Graeber's Debt to you, but yes, this exact 18th century fantasy of the emergence of money in caveman times contains the same kind of misunderstandings that also leads to most people having an incredibly misguided view of how the contemporary global financial system operates.