$37,000 in GPUs. Man, I never expected another PC manufacturer to make Apple's top configuration look cheap by comparison.
I thought it was a pricing mistake. But no, you just have to select the variations.
$42,412.00
They missed an opportunity by not adding $8
I had to do a double take myself, scrolled down and arrived at a similar number.<p>Wish I built this a few years ago!
So a new car, or an AI rig.<p>That's a bitter pill to swallow. Most of this is the cost of the Nvidia card, and the RAM.
<p><pre><code> Graphics:
(...)
+$18,399 192 GB Dual NVIDIA RTX PRO 6000 w/ 1000W + 750W PSUs (non-refundable) +$37,239
Memory:
(...)
192 GB DDR5 3600 MHz (4x48) +$1,874
</code></pre>
yup, 87.8% of $42,412 is just two GPUs and a PSU. Even RAM is less than 5%.
I've noticed that some companies have flat out dropped the high memory configurations from their lineup that were offered just months ago at inflated prices. OnePlayerX had a 128GB Strix Halo tablet, RedMagic had a 24GB Android phone - both have been removed from their sites. It's a similar situation for the new Thinkpad lineup.
SSD too. The priced have tripled...<p>It would be great if China had more lithography machine....
All memory. SSDs are expensive, microSD is expensive, even spinning rust has inflated.
hoist by our own strategic export controls, rip
Taiwan would disagree
> Accelerate your AI development with Thelio Mira AI, System76's affordable, GPU-focused workstations<p>From $3,299 (with just 64 GB RAM and a 4 GB GPU) to over $50,000. Very affordable indeed.
Seems they might be selling a combo of dual RTX Pro 6000 workstation cards (non-refundable), but the setup they have, unless they change how the GPUs cooling work, isn't gonna work out thermally if you stack two of those workstation cards on top of each other. But it doesn't say WS or "Workstation", so I suppose could be the server variant too? But also doesn't say...<p>Hope they have good overall cooling the case, cooling doesn't seem to be mentioned, it'll be a noisy little machine no doubt :)
They're [Max-Q] blower cards and there's a big gap between them so the cooling looks fine.
Page mentions liquid cooling, for what it's worth.
It only costs $40,000.
the landing page showed "$3,299.00" and I had my <i>candy store</i> moment for a few secs.
5 years ago I could not afford top shelf coders. Now I cannot afford top shelf machines.
New car or a Thelio. Tough decision.
Anyone know why they chose a consumer grade CPU on this? I’m a little surprised to see a 9950X as the top option. There’s not enough PCIe lanes available to run everything without bifurcation. I imagine the GPUs probably aren’t too bothered generally… but the NVMe drives are likely to slow down as a result.<p>A Threadripper ain’t cheap, but if you’re spending $45k on a workstation it seems like a weird place to skimp. Not to mention you’d then have the option of shoveling a few more 6000 pros in it when you want to run something larger (assuming your home/office electrical box can support it).
What motherboard do they use? (Or do they design their own now?)
The ASUS logo is visible in the photo of the innards.
I'm guessing it'll depend on the GPU (and CPU) choice, putting the cheapest that is sufficient for the choice.
This makes Mac Studio with 256GB memory look cheap in comparison. More memory to store weight at a quarter of the price!
Is this just a marketing stunt? From a completely ignorant user, doesn't AI reeuqires high bandwidth ram (like the GPU)? Is really DDR5’s bandwidth enough?
I remember losing sleep when I bought my RTX Pro 6000, but somehow they keep going up in price, and waddya know I’ve even done real work that appreciates the VRAM size.
Haha, bloody hell, mate. $17k a pop? I bought these for $8k-ish. That's bonkers to buy this when newer flash models won't fit on this any more. DeepSeek V4 Flash seems the last in its line, and then you have to count on Qwen Next. Seems like a waste honestly.
Do I want one? Yes.<p>Can I afford it? Absolutely not.
How is this interesting compared to either a Mac Studio or Nvidia Spark? Did I miss something?
Is it more powerful than Apple silicon, or why would anyone buy this? Just for Linux?<p>Oh, it's System76, that's why. Open hardware. Makes sense.<p>Edit: Also Nvidia
Mac GPUs supposedly being fastest thing on Earth obsoleting everything NVIDIA is just pure marketing. It was just faster once than some midrange laptop NVIDIA, which conveniently wasn't explicitly marked as different chip sharing the branding with the desktop variant(oof).<p>The real benefits to going Mac is its quiet and discreet, high wife/CEO acceptance design, and their huge GPU-assignable shared RAM.<p>If you're okay with your desk being the wing top of a flying airplane, and 3M Peltor or David-Clark is your favorite working time headphone brand anyway, then your build will be faster and cheaper than a maxed out Mac Studio.
The prefill rates are <i>way</i> faster on these cards compare to apple silicon, which affects TTFT and usability for a lot of coding tasks a lot, unless you fire and forget most of the time for your use cases.
It is more powerful than Apple.
I wonder why Apple has not really pushed their memory bandwidth numbers. They're starting to catch up to 2020 at this point -- cool, but still struggling to run years-old models. (FLOPS is even further behind by a year or two)<p>Maybe they're waiting on HBM? Given that they're skipping M6 Max to go straight for M7, I'd assume they're doing a redesign for it.
wouldnt you be better off maxing out the new Mac hardware? the memory bandwidth is insane on those jobbies
Two RTX 6000 have more FLOPS and more memory bandwidth than a M5 Ultra (but they also cost more).
There’s roughly 50% more memory bandwidth on an RTX 6000 pro versus the M5 Ultra. I imagine it really comes down to what you’re doing, I know my 5090 runs laps around the M5 Pro I have when it comes to local LLM performance (until it runs out of memory).<p>If it wasn’t for the fact the 6000 Pro is selling for like 100% ($9,000) over MSRP it would probably look a lot more reasonable.
If your goal is pure GPU compute, you should have got a 5090. It can bench comparable to the RTX 6000 Pro cards and is near guaranteed to outperform M5 Ultra.