Good news they adopted Rust as Tier-1 language. I hope their Weather app stop consuming more than 1GB RAM <a href="https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-built-in-Weather-app-wastes-more-than-1-GB-of-RAM.1364205.0.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-built-in-Weather-...</a>
You gotta have balls or be receiving tons of money to publicly celebrate the sloppiest software company of the decade making your programming language Tier 1 internally.
Is Microsoft still trying to embrace, extend, extinguish Netscape after all those years? :-)
This is very big news, all major OS vendors that also have a role in C and C++ language tooling, now have diversified their options in systems programming languages for greenfield development.<p>Additionally we finally get some public news about the MSVC integration rumors regarding Rust.
I guess the big question is whether they are going to open up rustc_codegen_utc for use outside of Microsoft?
With certain rough edges like complex traits and Async aside, rust is an S-tier lang in several domains. Of interest:<p><pre><code> - Embedded
- PC desktop applications
- Computationally-intense scientific programming. (Chem, structural bio etc)
- OSes, drivers etc
- High-performance tasks in general. CPU, GPU, etc.
</code></pre>
It's not a memory-safety one-trick pony; it's a well-rounded lang which has learned from its predecessors.
Honestly, the only domains that I think rust <i>isn't</i> suitable for are:<p>* rapid-prototyping, where javascript and python are still top-tier<p>* adding scriptability to existing programs, where I lua and scheme (and python) are popular<p>* Server-side API implementation (rust is usable here, but I think Go fits the slot better)
Calculate ackermann(4,4), make no mistakes.
Site down, maybe they need port it to use Rust...<p>They use wordpress
A lot of infrastructure is going to be ported to Rust.<p>It's fantastic for websites and servers, and LLMs are very good at generating it.<p>The primary downside of Rust is the long compile times, especially with macros (serde, etc.) If that can be fixed, it will be sublime.
So when will we get tier 1 debugging support in Visual Studio?
Optimistic to assume that modern day programmers even know what a debugger is, or if they do, consider it as anything else than some weird ancient shibboleth only used by the greybeards ;)
You have it already on VSCode, which isn't quite the same, however nowadays it is an open question which one is more relevant for Microsoft's management, especially given that VS isn't cross platform (see Azure), and is stuck with WPF/.NET Framework.
I'd also love to see MS sponsoring Windows support for a modern linker like mold or wild.
Link doesn’t work.<p>What’s a Tier 1 language?
It means it's about as good as C++ ;)
Tier 1 is the summit of summits - the <i>summum bonum</i> of languages, the highest order to which a language can aspire. Very few ever attain it. <i>Non multa, sed multum</i>: not many, but only those of extraordinary quality. Most languages remain forever in Tier 3, never passing beyond its gates. Of these, scarcely 1% ascend to Tier 2. And from that already distinguished company, a mere 0.1% possess the refinement, depth, and excellence required to cross the final threshold into Tier 1.<p>Consider what that means: Tier 1 represents roughly the top *0.001% of languages*. <i>Pauci sed electi</i> - few, but chosen. The <i>crème de la crème</i>. The aristocracy of languages. <i>Primus inter pares</i>, yet standing at the very edge of what programming language greatness can be.<p><i>Ad astra per aspera.</i> Through hardship, to the stars. Tier 1 is not merely another rank: it is the <i>ultima Thule</i>, the farthest frontier, the crown, the apotheosis.
(Link worked for me ...)<p>This “Tier-1 language” engineering status for Rust means giving internal teams a paved path from local development to production: secure toolchain builds, productive developer tooling, quality workflows, deep platform integration, and compliance with the SDL requirements Microsoft software must meet.
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This is great! Hope this trend will continue in the future; using a memory-safe language should be a top priority imo in context of the coming rogue AI swarms.