8 comments

  • flacebo9 minutes ago
    Nice workaround. Feels pretty stupid that you have to do that. Sounds like they choose the easy way to comply with the regulations. They could probably just have blocked certain frequency ranges.<p>Although I&#x27;m still fully convinced that TVs just got worse for the consumer since they became &quot;smart&quot;. My extended family had to replace perfectly good TVs three times because the new version of a streaming app did not work anymore.<p>Add stuff like running ads on an expensive TV, running spyware that sends screenshots even of your HDMI source back to the company (possibly exposing your passwords and everything), the continuous nagging about new versions and ToS (with dark patterns to accept sending voice data home), and I feel like the only sane option is to never ever give internet connection to these TVs. Use a separate device for streaming.
  • zamadatix1 hour ago
    It should probably be noted changing the regulatory region of an RF device may result in you using illegal frequencies in your area depending on the combination of which region you&#x27;re in and which region you&#x27;re setting it to.
    • yardie2 minutes ago
      It&#x27;s wifi. The client and the base have to negotiate a channel they both can see. If the AP is compliant for it&#x27;s region than you can assume the client will have to be as well.<p>BTW, I&#x27;m someone that use to by US region coded 802.11b wifi devices to get the 13th channel. Except for exploring, it was rarely useful since none of my other devices could connect on it.
    • embedding-shape56 minutes ago
      Yeah, not sure if author knows, they certainly don&#x27;t share if they understand this or not, but these things aren&#x27;t available because the some governments say those frequencies are illegal to use. Turkey for example has multiple frequencies under 5Ghz WiFi that is banned, hence consumer don&#x27;t get to use 5Ghz WiFi. If you change that, you&#x27;re breaking the law and you might get a visit, depending on how hardcore they are about the rules. Tend to be pretty strict and swift payback when it comes to using frequencies you shouldn&#x27;t, as they&#x27;re used for other stuff and easily seen when other traffic appears.
      • delamon18 minutes ago
        &gt; Turkey for example has multiple frequencies under 5Ghz WiFi that is banned, hence consumer don&#x27;t get to use 5Ghz WiFi.<p>Are you sure? According to wiki, there are plenty allowed 5GHz channels in Turkey.
      • fxd5 minutes ago
        Wrong - plenty of 5G here
        • jshier2 minutes ago
          5G the cellular connection, or 5GHz bands for wifi? GP was talking about wifi.
    • izacus6 minutes ago
      This is about a WiFi client - on WiFi networks the AP station chooses frequency and manufacturers&#x2F;driver writers fuck up legal frequency lists and regulatory codes all the time.
    • Avamander57 minutes ago
      If it&#x27;s a station (client) then it&#x27;s unlikely, as long as your APs are compliant.<p>With some chipsets it can end up being entirely ass-backwards - if you use an Intel WiFi chipset, a nearby AP can broadcast the wrong region and cripple your connectivity.<p>Outdated regulatory databases and firmware efforts by vendors have generally made both illegal and legal usage beyond ch 1-12 at 2.4GHz rather difficult.
    • BlackRabbit11 hour ago
      You mean that this helicopter hovering about my home is looking out for me?
  • 0xc13323 minutes ago
    Why the hell would you ever let a TV on any network?
    • TheNastyPatty9 minutes ago
      Guy who just woke up from a 20 year nap
      • flacebo6 minutes ago
        He is right though.
  • kwanbix1 hour ago
    I don&#x27;t get it, why can&#x27;t they just change the region in the settings?<p>I was able to on my LG. Nice TV, worst firmware ever. It had an issue with Wifi. It basically will not connect once or so a week. You needed to change, you guess it, the region. So I will keep changing from Germany to Spain to Ireland to Germany to Etc. I sent pictures, videos, emails, links to youtube videos to LG support, they wouldn&#x27;t care, they would just deny it. In the end I bought a Fire TV Max and that was it. But what a horrible support experience LG never again.
  • physhster38 minutes ago
    Android had (has?) a similar issue with the hotspot feature where it will not turn on in a region where 5 GHz is more regulated than in the US but will also not give you any warning about it.
  • pzmarzly1 hour ago
    If LG ever removes or restricts Developer Mode, I am selling my TV the same day.
    • functionmouse1 hour ago
      new locked down spyware TVs are so cheap, who would want to buy and move -your- locked down spyware TV?
      • ctippett1 hour ago
        Jailbroken LG TVs are the panacea of locked down spyware TVs.<p>Although like OP, if I ever lose the ability to run root, then that&#x27;s the day I look for a new TV (lord have mercy).
        • msh1 hour ago
          I don’t think I will ever again connect a tv to the internet
          • mjlee1 hour ago
            I wonder how long it will be until TVs have some sort of cellular modem built in. Maybe some form of LPWAN - your TV may not be connected to the internet, but odds are there&#x27;s one in range that is.
            • flacebo1 minute ago
              Damn... The faraday cage around my TV will worsen the picture quality.
        • kosinus56 minutes ago
          I was playing around with LG TV homebrew a while back. Still have the same TV, and in the age of AI, I&#x27;m considering putting a coding agent to work on a dump of the filesystem to see what it&#x27;d take to run stock Linux on it.
  • hawshemi2 hours ago
    yea... LG policies are real shitty. I didn&#x27;t have 5Ghz Wifi on my TV. why? cuz I&#x27;m in middle east!
    • sorenjan1 hour ago
      Sounds more like a legal issue with permitted spectrum use than an arbitrary LG policy.
      • preponderant-pa6 minutes ago
        It seems like OP lives in Iran. It seems like at least a good part of the 5GHz band is available there. [1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.spinics.net&#x2F;lists&#x2F;linux-wireless&#x2F;msg262022.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.spinics.net&#x2F;lists&#x2F;linux-wireless&#x2F;msg262022.html</a>
      • hawshemi1 hour ago
        Well, I have Sony and Samsung (both middle east regions) but they dont have any restrictions in these areas. I only see these kinda quirks with LG all the times.
      • Avamander1 hour ago
        It&#x27;s more likely an out-of-date regulatory database that predates 5GHz being allowed in those regions.
        • ValdikSS48 minutes ago
          Linux&#x27;s wireless-regdb has proper 5G regulatory information for at least SA, CY, EG, QA, at least since 2017, just checked. The TV in the repo is 2025 year model.
      • jhfdbkofdchk1 hour ago
        &quot;Saudi Arabia&#x27;s CITC hates this one weird trick!&quot;
  • cs02rm01 hour ago
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