14 comments

  • wlonkly1 hour ago
    They&#x27;ll get their 15 minutes, but there&#x27;s no _there_ there. They&#x27;re owned by System1, a bottom-of-the-barrel advertising company where 1990s web brands go to die (Metacrawler? Startpage.com?? Dogpile?!?!). Their maps are OpenStreetMaps maps.<p>People think they have their back (because OSM is showing Lake Ontario), but it&#x27;s just marketing.
    • nancyminusone41 minutes ago
      as opposed to a top of the barrel advertising company like Google
      • altcognito16 minutes ago
        There is significant differences in advertising. The things at the bottom of the barrel in advertising are often literally malware.
        • nancyminusone2 minutes ago
          You mean like software that restricts what your devices can do and collects and sells your personal information? Its the very same barrel.
        • soperj2 minutes ago
          Nah, it&#x27;s all malware. Some just for your brain.
    • doubled11259 minutes ago
      Dogpile?!? There&#x27;s a name I haven&#x27;t heard in what feels like 20 years.<p>The concept of searching a bunch of search engines made sense to me.
      • verdverm32 minutes ago
        Ironicly this is what my agent does today on my behalf because regular search has become so bad
    • gruez59 minutes ago
      &gt;Startpage.com<p>I thought that was still the best way to get anonymous google index search results?
    • mc3249 minutes ago
      They forgot to scoop up mapbalst!<p>never mind looks like they got swallowed up by bing maps (that’s where Bing got line drive from, TIL!)
  • yndoendo6 minutes ago
    I&#x27;ve dumped Google Maps for OSM over three years ago and have not looked back. Did this as one of my de-Google steps by choosing a Fairphone.<p>Looking at a FuriLabs FLX1S to start the next phase by switching to a Linux phone.<p>I&#x27;ve become a sunk cost to Google by not spending anything on their products or services and always use Ad-Block solution in a private session if I must.
  • RajT8824 minutes ago
    I enjoy how Bing Maps (and Bing in general) are so unloved that it&#x27;s not even part of the debate. (Bing Maps hasn&#x27;t changed - yet - but probably will eventually, since they caved on the Gulf of Mexico)
  • gnuplustoejam36 minutes ago
    It still says Ontario because there&#x27;s no one left at MapQuest that knows how to change it.
    • D-Coder28 minutes ago
      That may be, but it&#x27;s still what many people want.
      • gnuplustoejam24 minutes ago
        I suggest they buy a laminated map for children, cross it out, and write the old name in so they can sleep at night.
        • nickthegreek8 minutes ago
          Or we could not bend the knee to a single old man throwing a tantrum.
          • gnuplustoejam0 minutes ago
            The same people throwing a tantrum about the inconsequential naming of a lake are now throwing a shit-fit after they discovered MapQuest doesn&#x27;t show their preferred borders for Palestine, so I&#x27;m quite enjoying this play out.
          • charcircuit4 minutes ago
            What about the executive order reads as someone throwing a tantrum?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.whitehouse.gov&#x2F;presidential-actions&#x2F;2026&#x2F;08&#x2F;honoring-the-american-history-of-the-great-lakes-and-renaming-lake-ontario-as-lake-america-3a36&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.whitehouse.gov&#x2F;presidential-actions&#x2F;2026&#x2F;08&#x2F;hono...</a>
  • standeven39 minutes ago
    I think a lot of people are desperate for tech giants to stand up to the current US administration.
    • declan_roberts7 minutes ago
      As long as tech companies make a stand against superficial culture war fights like this nobody will care that they&#x27;ve caved w.r.t privacy over the last two decades. Sad!
  • chrononaut1 hour ago
    &gt; In 2019, Verizon sold MapQuest to internet advertising company System1.<p>It&#x27;s ad companies all the way down.
    • declan_roberts7 minutes ago
      And this is a PR piece put out by the ad company that people eat up because orange man bad.
  • ghostoftiber33 minutes ago
    I feel like it wasn&#x27;t defiance as much as &quot;we need to come up with a story why we don&#x27;t have any developers who know how to update this&quot;.
  • Varelion44 minutes ago
    Finding MapQuest on the PlayStore was a quest all on its own. More specifically, it does not exist on my PlayStore, and I had to install it on my phone remotely through the browser PlayStore.<p>Review wise, it sits firmly at a single star, so it&#x27;s possible that Google burried it, although I would not put it past them to rig things.
    • i80and2 minutes ago
      Are you sure you installed the right app, com.mapquest.android.ace? It&#x27;s 3.2 stars on the Play Store.<p>It&#x27;s a serviceable app, but unfortunately it doesn&#x27;t do public transit directions so its utility for me is pretty dubious.
  • organsnyder38 minutes ago
    I tried it out for a trip yesterday. I wanted to love the app—it has a great retro feel, and an ad-free subscription option—but it gave me weird routes and the audio was extremely stuttery.
  • pmdulaney58 minutes ago
    On the back of a cocktail napkin, I drew a map of you...
  • afavour21 minutes ago
    I get why people want Apple and Google to push back but ultimately there isn’t any logical approach for them to operate that isn’t “name things as the relevant governmental bodies name them”. Otherwise what source of truth is there?<p>The responsibility here is with a spineless government. An executive order is not a law and a congress that did its job would quickly contract these kind of mad king declarations.
    • vharuck4 minutes ago
      What about researchers at universities? Maintain a list of experts and conduct a poll whenever an event like this happens or enough of the experts request.<p>Or require an act of Congress. Obviously, we can no longer rely on Executive Orders being careful, thought-out, or lasting changes. Does any mapping organization want to change names back and forth? Does any user want to see these changes?
    • bigstrat20039 minutes ago
      The government has no right to name geographic features. The names are established by popular usage, not the feds. As such Google and Apple should not listen to the demands of a body which has no right to make them in the first place.
      • afavour4 minutes ago
        “Popular usage” is all very well and good until you have to quantify it in some way. No way it wouldn’t be a complete mess.<p>For example: the body of water between the UK and France. The UK calls it “the English Channel”. The French call it “la Manche”. It has no official international name. In Google Maps both names are used depending on what country&#x2F;language you are using. Choosing one via popular usage would not be a good solution.
  • egberts146 minutes ago
    Once again, private equity ruined another fine company ... with incessant advertisements
  • ChrisArchitect1 hour ago
    Earlier: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49510969">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49510969</a>
  • alephnerd1 hour ago
    Take that Cory Doctrow [0]<p>[0] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boingboing.net&#x2F;2019&#x2F;10&#x2F;10&#x2F;do-webrings-next.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;boingboing.net&#x2F;2019&#x2F;10&#x2F;10&#x2F;do-webrings-next.html</a>
    • reaperducer1 hour ago
      I think Cory would be surprised to see how many Mapquest referrers show up in the referrer logs of brick-and-mortar businesses.