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  • jackconsidine24 minutes ago
    TIL Saab was an aerospace company. My Dad had a &#x27;98 Saab. It had an &quot;S&quot; button on the shifter. It stood for &quot;speed&quot;. When we were 7&#x2F;8 years old we&#x27;d beg him to press it and it would speed up 10mph. I got my license in 2011, immediately took that car onto the highway and pressed the S button.<p>Nothing happened. I went home and read the manual. S stand for sport. It keeps the engine in a higher gear than normal for quicker response
    • 0bytes13 minutes ago
      You could argue that the “Swedish Airplane Inc.” (Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget, SAAB) also does cars.
    • newsclues18 minutes ago
      Aerospace and defence!
  • ecshafer1 hour ago
    The goal of concept to aircraft in 36 months is admirable. Anduril recently built a jet in a similar timeframe. In the US at least, the last 30 years after defense industry consolidation has caused great stagnation. The F-35 took over a decade and went monstrously over budget, more as a jobs program than as a functional product. Competition showing they can build a jet faster and cheaper is what we need to kick the DoD into gear with the large contractors.
    • wbl1 hour ago
      The DoD changing its mind several times did not do the F-35 project any favors
      • urbsgpw55 minutes ago
        Yup, while I&#x27;m sure that part of it is that the big players got used to this modus operandi, part of it it just your client not knowing what they want. I work for a financial institution, I see this everyday. Our IT partners just have to wait for our ill-conceived and ill-defined tickets and changes of priorities, keep track of the tickets and the money keeps flowing by itself. I know the analogy isn&#x27;t perfect, but still.<p>Hats off to Anduril for shaking up the space. Wonder if the Swedes will be able to match them.
      • pixelesque35 minutes ago
        Block 4&#x27;s still an absolute shit-show in terms of management and progress...
    • newsclues17 minutes ago
      Industry and wealth transfer and job creation programs have different goals. Congress is at odds with efficient industries.
    • roosterIllusi0n50 minutes ago
      F-35 took nearly 3 decades.<p>As it stands US tech companies don&#x27;t want to do high volume low cost drones, so ukraine will likely end up doing it and become the supplier for other countries.
      • junofan27 minutes ago
        I mean looking at the state of that conflict… the low-cost drone thing doesn’t look that great. Maybe other countries will want to go with this kind of attritable aircraft concept instead.
    • mschuster9127 minutes ago
      &gt; Competition showing they can build a jet faster and cheaper is what we need to kick the DoD into gear with the large contractors.<p>The problem is, will there be enough of a demand? Part of why military procurement programs are stretched so long now is because the hot war that these things might be used in (aka, an all out direct war with Russia or China) is... increasingly unrealistic, but at the same time the US (or EU) still have to maintain the know-how, <i>and</i> we don&#x27;t need hundreds or thousands of unit which makes the unit price including R&amp;D extremely high.
  • gnatman1 hour ago
    how about a 2-door 900 turbo revival?
    • fnordsensei1 hour ago
      With the bare minimum of modern electronics. The dream.
    • lightedman12 minutes ago
      I&#x27;d be happier with a 9-3t (small t not large T) redo.<p>But nooo, SAAB sold their auto division to GM in 2005.
      • rootsudo11 minutes ago
        Saab 9-2x and 9-7 were the most reliable Saabs and that was thanks to GM.<p>It was quite the Saab story.
    • jjtheblunt1 hour ago
      my goodness how i miss mine!
    • testfrequency1 hour ago
      Rare moment on HN where I can share that I had a 9-3 Viggen. Such a wonderful car, wish I didn’t need to sell at the time.
      • fifilura1 hour ago
        Namesake of the previous generation SAAB aircraft.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sv.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Saab_37_Viggen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;sv.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Saab_37_Viggen</a>
    • esseph55 minutes ago
      I would be willing to try a Saab 4dr EV...<p>Or just bring the 9-3 Turbo back!
      • 0x45730 minutes ago
        No 9-anything, only 900 and 9000.
        • lightedman11 minutes ago
          My 9-3t stock could dust many modified Mustangs in a drag race.<p>I never saw a 900 do that.
  • JKCalhoun48 minutes ago
    I&#x27;m surprised <i>manned</i> aircraft are getting so much money&#x2F;attention. I suppose you could fly them remotely too though (but pricey for a drone).
    • intrasight41 minutes ago
      The article says this one is autonomous
    • twobitshifter41 minutes ago
      is it manned? I assumed autonomous means unmanned?<p>“Saab has unveiled its A3 collaborative combat aircraft concept—an <i>autonomous</i>, tailless, supersonic, double-delta-wing air vehicle”
  • philipov2 hours ago
    I&#x27;m betting that High-End Concept will win the race over Saab.
  • heyitsmedotjayb1 hour ago
    those kids don&#x27;t stand a chance against such an epic aircraft
  • lenerdenator2 hours ago
    If we&#x27;re going to expend time and effort on finding new and exciting ways to destroy other members of our species, it might be worth noting that the major change in battles over the last decade seems to have been flooding the zone with cheap, micro-to-small drones, not something like this.<p>That being said, perhaps we find something more productive to do with our time as humans?
    • budman11 hour ago
      All of the current conflicts (russia &#x2F; ukraine, us &#x2F; iran) would consider drones as a nuisance if:<p>#1. For russia &#x2F; ukraine neither side has air superiority. If one side had it, they could be obliterating the other side with a constant stream of 500 lb gravity bombs. Each of which has more explosives than 100 drones.<p>#2. For us &#x2F; iran, the US is unwilling to risk any pilots. And iran has some air defenses in place. The US could drop bombs from up close, gravity mk-82&#x27;s and jdams every hour for months. Currently they are using standoff weapons which are either minimally effective (drones) or crazy expensive (Tomohawk, Standard Missile, etc.)<p>One B1 gets shot down, and 4 crew get paraded around in downtown Tehran, and what little support trump has will vanish.<p>What am I trying to say? Drones have a place. They don&#x27;t obsolete anything. The key is to have the weapons available to meet the time in which they are needed.
    • bluGill2 hours ago
      Be careful that you&#x27;re not able to fight the next war because all your effort is working on solving the problems of the past war when your enemy has found a better way around it.<p>It would be nice if humans could find ways to not kill each other, but the reality is humans have a very poor track record and you would be a fool to not put at least some effort into defending yourself.
      • BurningFrog1 hour ago
        We <i>have</i> found a way to not kill each other!<p>Rich free market democracies don&#x27;t fight wars against each other.
        • Tuna-Fish1 hour ago
          We unfortunately have not found a way to turn our kleptokratic dictatorship neighbor into one.<p>The greatest failure of the past 20 years was the belief that if we open up trade and grow rich together, rational self-interest will lead to liberalization and peace. Instead, it just gave our enemies more resources to spend on self-destructive imperialist ambitions.
        • enaaem1 hour ago
          Only with rational actors. But do not underestimate the stupidity of leaders who thought it would be easy.
        • c0balt1 hour ago
          This might have to be put into the context that they do in fact move the conflict over resources to economic wars. They also actively engage in wars over ressources when they think they can win outside of MAD, see U. S. vs Iran.<p>Economic warfare also does in fact kill people. Denying a population, e. g., Cuba, the ability to access medicine&#x2F;food kills humans just as well as a bullet in the long term.<p>There are various other ways this causes suffering. Different forms of warfare are still warfare, even if you don&#x27;t to hold a gun for all of them.<p>Being &quot;rich&quot; also requires someone else to be &quot;poor&quot;.
          • cucumber37328424 minutes ago
            &gt;Economic warfare also does in fact kill people. Denying a population, e. g., Cuba, the ability to access medicine&#x2F;food kills humans just as well as a bullet in the long term.<p>Deny them jobs, investment that could create jobs and paths to prosperity.<p>Give them drugs.<p>Shocked Pikachu when they don&#x27;t like you.<p>Edit: Revised language to be more broadly applicable.
          • fifilura1 hour ago
            Perfect is the enemy of good.<p>Market democracy is not perfect but it solves 90% of the problems we&#x27;d have otherwise.
        • bryanlarsen1 hour ago
          The &quot;Golden Arches Theory of Conflict Prevention&quot; has been broken 4 times:<p>- NATO v Yugoslavia 1999 - India v Pakistan 1999 - Russia v Georgia 2008 - Russia v Ukraine 2014, 2022
          • fifilura1 hour ago
            What is the denominator? I.e. how many times did it prevent war?
            • bluGill43 minutes ago
              There is no way no know. Any number is an acceptable answer. For a good answer you can find lots of reasoning&#x2F;logic&#x2F;history to justify your guess, but it is still a guess.
              • fifilura38 minutes ago
                Without it the parent post is irrelevant.
          • benxh1 hour ago
            NATO v Yugoslavia 1999 is not like the others
        • jayd161 hour ago
          So is the US not democratic enough, not rich enough or not free market enough?
          • fifilura1 hour ago
            In case of war privilieges, your president can act as a dictator. At least the first 90 days, unless he finds a way to reset those days.
          • enaaem1 hour ago
            Also a very Christian nation that follows the teachings of Jesus.
          • BurningFrog31 minutes ago
            I can&#x27;t think of any rich free market democracies the US has fought wars against.
            • jayd1629 minutes ago
              The trick is to destabilize their democracies first.
              • cucumber37328422 minutes ago
                They do it to themselves after people forget what made them rich in the first place.
    • rbanffy2 hours ago
      &gt; not something like this<p>When all you make are hammers, all your enemies look like nails.
    • _joel1 hour ago
      You can&#x27;t fly a micro drone thousands of km&#x27;s
      • kevin_thibedeau21 minutes ago
        The DARPA LongShot is a cruise missile barge that deploys another short range missile from its bay. That could be repurposed for other munitions like drones.
  • blini-kot2 hours ago
    should&#x27;ve made nice cars instead T_T