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  • zug_zug1 hour ago
    I think the points being made here are mostly good-ish. The last place I worked created a team of principles whose whole goal was to create a system to turn jira tickets into PRs and it was incredibly demotivating and bore no fruit before I left.<p>But, and maybe I&#x27;m just a curmudgeon, but I kind of wonder why we write articles like this. Like if a culture is bad, is it likely a CEO is going to be looking for random blog posts for constructive criticism?<p>Or even managers? I look at the market forces at play, and I just don&#x27;t think many (any?) organization successfully create an incentive structure where performance on intangibles (specifically management) can be assessed well enough to make a bad culture into a better culture. I&#x27;ve worked at zero places where managers where seriously held to account for how &quot;motivated&quot; their employees were; when there were surveys of engagement engineers almost never truly believed they were anonymous (and why would they?) and were hesitant to give honest feedback.<p>In short, being a CEO is a skill of crafting and debugging a machine of people, a skill that I think life gives almost no training for, and a skill that most people with that title have no awareness or aptitude for. &lt;&#x2F;rant&gt;
    • saghm54 minutes ago
      Anyone who is looking for a job in the future would probably benefit from knowing what to look for (and what <i>not</i> to look for). I&#x27;m not likely to ever be in a position where I have outsized influence on the culture of the company I work at, but I do have the ability to influence what company I work at, and basically all of the criteria boil down to either compensation (not just salary, benefits too, since I live in a country where healthcare is a privilege rather than a right), and how happy I will be working there. As much as I hate how many companies don&#x27;t treat their employees well, I also know that&#x27;s not going to change any time soon, so to the extent I&#x27;m able to, I want to avoid working at companies where their culture sucks.<p>Right now I&#x27;m happy where I work, but I think most people recognize that so much can change almost literally overnight (either in terms of the employer still wanting to employ someone, e.g. sudden layoffs, or in terms of whether it sucks to work somewhere, e.g. massive policy changes like a job where you&#x27;re comfortably remote suddenly trying to make you commute or even move). Until I&#x27;m at a point where I&#x27;d be able to retire if something like that happened, I need to continue to be aware of how to spot the red flags at prospective employers.
    • throw83837849 minutes ago
      &gt; whole goal was to create a system to turn jira tickets into PRs<p>I love companies like that! Everything is documented, stuff just works, CI builds...<p>If something is broken, you just open ticket, and responsible person takes care of it! You do not have to investigate when Judy returns from holidays...<p>With remote work I can spend more time with kids..<p>&quot;Company culture&quot; usually means you have to listen to shitty stories, provide social life for some lonely people, and do unpaid emotional labour!<p>And do not dare to say anything even remotely controversial, in this &quot;open&quot; environment that &quot;foster communications&quot;!
    • cryzinger56 minutes ago
      &gt; But, and maybe I&#x27;m just a curmudgeon, but I kind of wonder why we write articles like this. Like if a culture is bad, is it likely a CEO is going to be looking for random blog posts for constructive criticism?<p>I think the odds of any particular article making it onto a CEO&#x27;s radar are low, and the odds of them actually taking good advice to heart (let alone implementing it) are even lower. That said... I also get the impression that the shittest kinds of C-levels and VPs are disproportionately swayed by whatever opinion they last read in their daily email newsletter or heard on a five-minute podcast snippet. So at least in theory, if you were able to inject a seed of a good idea into the zeitgeist, that idea might reach the level of saturation where it turns into a form of white-collar peer pressure.<p>Unfortunately I <i>also</i> think the ideas that reach the peer pressure saturation point tend to be less &quot;be nice to your employees&quot; and more &quot;put shock collars on them and make them beg for their jobs,&quot; but I guess it can&#x27;t hurt to try?
      • sandeepkd36 minutes ago
        I think sharing such ideas openly allows people to converge on similar feelings and experience which eventually leads to people experimenting these for real. We need to take into account that a lot of people reading and writing these kind of thoughts seriously may not be CEO at present but that does not prevents the possibility of them becoming the CEO&#x27;s in future
    • DrJokepu15 minutes ago
      &gt; Like if a culture is bad, is it likely a CEO is going to be looking for random blog posts for constructive criticism<p>No, but the CEO will absolutely seek out my recommendations and I do read random blog posts
  • aesthetics149 minutes ago
    AI accelerates dysfunction. It will help you get to the wrong place faster if you&#x27;re already heading there.<p>I do believe the opposite is true too. If you have a strong culture, a product or idea with promise, and a team of smart and capable people, it can move you faster in the right direction too.<p>The problem is that every person or company in group 1 thinks they are in group 2.
  • joshheitzman58 minutes ago
    It&#x27;s easier to deploy AI than it is to create good culture.
  • newsomix9xl1 hour ago
    The devops ppl talked about culture too. Seemed not too helpful.<p>Afaict toxic managers and C-level managers make for bad culture.<p>Now what?
    • AnimalMuppet1 hour ago
      Reading your post, I just realized that &quot;bad culture&quot; perfectly explains what bothered me about my last workplace. So thank you for that concise tag to put on what I was seeing.<p>As for your &quot;now what&quot;, companies with a bad culture will be at a competitive disadvantage. Their efforts to wring more productivity out of their broken culture usually make the culture worse. My advice would be to leave ships once you realize that they&#x27;re sinking. (That doesn&#x27;t make you a rat!)
  • rawgabbit16 minutes ago
    AI style writing; didn’t bother.
  • lilerjee32 minutes ago
    How to develop good culture? Firstly remove AI.
  • cyanydeez1 hour ago
    If this is true, almost all of big tech is becoming unproductive; so that follows.
  • sublinear1 hour ago
    Can we finally just admit that using AI for coding is equivalent (or maybe even slightly inferior) to web search?<p>A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Giving junior devs or non-devs what is essentially automated stackoverflow copypasta on steroids only amplified all the downsides of inexperience that we already learned well over a decade ago.
    • revetkn53 minutes ago
      If your position is AI for coding is equivalent or worse than web search, I am curious how you arrived there. I could see that a few years ago, but with the state of the tooling now it is hard for me to understand.
    • justincormack1 hour ago
      No, its not. Since when did stack overflow or google find and fix thousands of security issues.
      • charlieyu11 hour ago
        I’m old enough to remember computers replacing thousands of pages of paper.
      • sublinear1 hour ago
        What does that have to do with productivity?<p>Bugs and security flaws are just oversights. Those oversights are caused by inattention either through fatigue or acting too quickly. An inexperienced person delegating what they don&#x27;t understand to AI produces more bugs, not less.<p>Those mindlessly copying from stackoverflow were in a similar situation, but only because they ignored or didn&#x27;t understand the warnings from the discussion. You&#x27;re rolling the dice if you expect AI to explain itself, as it can only ever know at most what it scraped from (stackoverflow and poorly documented github repos).<p>As it was not too long ago, searching on stackoverflow was already a hail mary play. AI just makes the problem worse. At best, with AI there&#x27;s a lot of reinventing the wheel with no hope of ever doing better than merely approximating the wheel.
    • r_lee50 minutes ago
      this is just false...