From a European perspective, one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism. The violent storming of a national symbol of democracy is clearly not one of them.<p>This doesn't exactly make one want to spend their next vacation in the USA – even though, admittedly, we have our own problems here.
Terrorism has always meant the other guy's goons, as opposed to my freedom fighters.
> one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism<p>Anyone willing to line their pockets, it seems.
If you’ve wondered why there wasn’t an effective political Left in this county for the last ~60 years, buckle up.
Being far-left is now officially terrorism. Now they will start move the bar one step at a time, one organization at a time, to cut off every political movement that does not align.
Nice to know these guys exist, might have to make use of some of their services.
They really don't have to call a group <i>far left</i> or <i>far right</i> in their justification, because it sounds like weak credibility in search of social support. They could just call them a criminal organization seeking directly, or indirectly, to contribute to violence for political ends, which does not sound like the case here.
> They could just call them a criminal organization seeking directly, or indirectly, to contribute to violence for political ends<p>Most jurisdictions will prosecute you under terrorism laws for that.<p>The "adjectives" (far-left) are there just explain to the public what kind of terrorism they are talking about.
But if they label it far left then they get to rile their idiot supporters up.
a̵n̵t̵i̵-̵a̵n̵t̵i̵fa is just fa, no?
No. Just because I am not against people golfing, does not making me a golfer.
Last time I checked, Golf's central tenants don't require mass dehumanization, ethnic scapegoating, and violent intimidation tactics.
If you're hunting down and prosecuting anti-golfers for their beliefs then you're at least a golfer-sympathizer. A golf club licker if you will.
Assuming this is a serious question: There are people who are not themselves fascists who object to the direct action tactics (read: violence, vandalism) sometimes employed under the banner of "antifa."
These people are easy to find. Listen for people who are acting like a hero because they boycott Amazon or some other with-your-wallet kind of activism, and suggest nonviolent sabotage. They clutch their pearls so hard, each becomes a tiny neutron star, and you can then triangulate their position in real space based on the gravitational waves from those collapses.
Yes. Or pro-fa.
Will they be invited to the White House in 10 years like this "Global Terrorist" was?<p><a href="https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2013/05/209499.htm" rel="nofollow">https://2009-2017.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2013/05/209499.htm</a><p>Jolly good fellow.
>Their claim about Rose City Antifa seems to be false, however, conflating Rose City Antifa with another project called Rose City Counterinfo.<p>Can't make it real
sounds anti free speech to me!
I think it is the reverse situation - the US government is a global terrorist. Canada noticed this too recently again, when the USA tried to sneakily put in abusive clauses that would take advantage of Canadians and put them as second class citizens in the new trade agreement. Trump acts as a mafia and now we know that "The Art of the Deal" is a mafia slogan.
Cool.<p>So this is the US government acting at the behest of neonazis: "
According to one anti-fascist research group, “Some of the most well-known NoBlogs sites belong to researchers who solely report on far-right hate and radicalization, never doing anything aside from showing you what exists.”
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in their newest crusade generally championing the concept of fascism (which is what you get when you declare yourself anti-anti-fascist, as should be immediately evident to anyone with the ability to follow basica boolean logic).<p>Cool, cool.
here's the official state department's statement: <a href="https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/" rel="nofollow">https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...</a>
According to that, they provided services to the guys that cut off parts of Berlin from the power grid, that caused 1 fatality.<p>IANAL but the common understanding of the situation would be: You can't as an ISP prevent malicious actors from using your service, but you do can assist the government - in this case the German - to hand over the data to help assist law enforcement. If state-department's claims are true, did noblogs.org do so?
Hitler would have said the same.
This administration is fascist. Its TESCREAL backers are also fascists. This action tracks with their broader anti-democratic project.
First they came for the communists
See also: The Münchener Post and the SA raid on its headquarters: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchener_Post" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnchener_Post</a><p>History doesn't repeat, but it sure rhymes...
Why is the Trump administration against anti-fascism? </s><p>Edit: lol @ the guy claiming anti-fascists are "intolerant" while all of today's leading technofascists are crowing about how empathy is self-defeating. so, we are supposed to eschew empathy, unless it is for fascist ideals? sure, technofascists, whatever you say.
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Only intolerant opinions like white-supremacy, and they're a lot less violent then the right.
> intolerant of some opinions<p>You might want to read up on Karl Popper and the Paradox of Tolerance [1] as well as on some German history.<p>Don't give a single inch to fascists or you will get destroyed. Hell, just look at the sorry state of the current GOP after it let the Tea Party looners in. These guys and the "birthers" paved the ground for MAGA to enter the scene, and nowadays what used to be the "moderate" Republicans is all but gone. The new "moderate" are considered to be people like Marjorie Taylor Greene, just because they have broken with Trump.<p>[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance</a>
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If you want safety and prosperity, why vote in a convicted felon who pardoned thousands of insurrectionists who went on to reoffend and end up back in jail for violent offenses and crimes against children? Why vote for a moronic tariff plan that literally anyone could tell you would hurt the economy? Why vote for corruption and racial violence and sexual abuse? Why vote for a rapist who was best buds with Epstein?
Can you give some examples of the woke/marxist crap?<p>Trump ran as a republican because he thought it would be easier to sway republicans to vote for him because they're sheeple, <i>and he's on camera saying that</i> and everyone just memory-holed it.
Don't bother. "woke/marxist crap" is an obvious tell that they're delusional from a Facebook feed or similar. They will have plenty of examples because it obviously does exist, but it's ultimately just a strawman without much sway over the larger Democratic party - especially in the current context of how Republicans have gone all-in for con artist in chief and are currently <i>running the show</i>. As a centrist libertarian who had never in my life voted for a major party in a national election until 2020, I'm holding my nose and voting conservative (ie democrat) for the foreseeable future.
If MAGA wants lower crime, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants commit crime at lower rates than citizens. [1]<p>If MAGA is pro-economy, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants are more entrepreneurial than US-born citizens. [2] [3]. Why the tariffs? Tariffs are a tax on American consumers.<p>The line of reasoning you present is just completely wrong. Is it because MAGA are wrong/ignorant? Or because MAGA are racist and fascists?<p>[1] <a href="https://www.aeaweb.org/research/chart/incarceration-immigrants-us-born" rel="nofollow">https://www.aeaweb.org/research/chart/incarceration-immigran...</a><p>[2] <a href="https://news.mit.edu/2022/study-immigrants-more-likely-start-firms-create-jobs-0509" rel="nofollow">https://news.mit.edu/2022/study-immigrants-more-likely-start...</a><p>[3] <a href="https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/fortune-500-companies-founded-by-immigrants-2025/" rel="nofollow">https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/fortune-50...</a><p>EDIT, sadly the reply is flagged, so I will post my response to it below:<p>>Don't conflate immigrants with illegal immigrants first off.<p>The analyses I presented don't make a distinction between legal and illegal immigrants; the facts they state still stand.<p>>Second, we KNOW a lot of those people they're picking up committed crimes. Murder, rape, etc. They all have charges and are queued for deportation.<p>And if your concern is about crime, you would want the law enforcement resources that are being used to pick up immigrants to be used to pick up US-born citizens, because US born citizens are <i>more</i> criminal.<p>>Illegal immigrants are a strain on the healthcare system, education system, policing, social services. It's a simple fact that every country knows.<p>Wrong again. Immigrants use less of all of those social resources, except public school. Public schools are strained because us-born students are more likely to attend private schools, and public schools are generally funded on a student headcount basis. [4] [5] [6] [7]<p>>And Tariffs are a consumption tax on if they buy those foreign products. I'll take a trade war if it means getting drug prices and many other trade inequalities down (which he did). Turns out our allies are bigger assholes than our adversaries.<p>Typically, as reported, there aren't many American substitutes for the foreign-produced goods that have been taxed on tariffs. Just to use a very recent example, American cars now have their canadian auto parts slapped with a 50% tariff. Am I supposed to source my own american parts and then build my own car? What the hell is wrong with you?<p>>But nah, Democrats must be right about everything. It's impossible to be wrong. Republicans are evil and ignorant is what you probably hear.<p>Living in a red state, and having many MAGA family members, I am sympathetic to listening to the arguments made by MAGA. However, their claims fall apart when you start looking at facts and data, as I believe I have amply demonstrated through our back-and-forth.<p>[4] <a href="https://www.cato.org/briefing-paper/immigrant-native-consumption-means-tested-welfare-entitlement-benefits-2023" rel="nofollow">https://www.cato.org/briefing-paper/immigrant-native-consump...</a><p>[5] <a href="https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/key-facts-on-health-care-use-and-costs-among-immigrants/" rel="nofollow">https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/key-fact...</a><p>[6] <a href="https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117" rel="nofollow">https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117</a><p>[7] <a href="https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/potential-impacts-of-increased-immigration-enforcement-on-school-attendance-and-funding/" rel="nofollow">https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/potentia...</a>
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The government just shut down processing of legal immigration applications, so yes actually, Trump only wants illegal immigrants, no legal ones.
It's a temporary pause in INTERVIEWS, not the entire process. The pause is to train people to analyze whether that person would be dependent on public services.<p>Unfortunately our public services are overloaded by illegal immigrants, this is needed.<p>And what does that have to do with GP conflating stats meant for immigrants with illegal immigrants?
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"ZOG" claims way too much, is inactionable, and ultimately just feeds the reactionary dumpster fire that has created our current predicament. "Please don't release the real Epstein files Mr Bibi Sir" suffices.
> Trump is completely torching his term for Israel.<p>That is utter bullshit and you know it.<p>The US government has always been deathly afraid of anything left of what would be "conservative social democrats" in Europe - remember McCarthyism? The US certainly does not need Israel to tell it to hunt down leftists.<p>> Then you'll get your comments removed from this website if you mention the term "ZOG".<p>Because it's a ridiculous antisemitic conspiracy myth.
The link makes it clear (at least to me) that they are looking for Palestine supporters and not leftists in general.
> Because it's a ridiculous antisemitic conspiracy myth.<p>This perceived overlap of antisemitism and anti-zionism has been shown many times to be a false equivalence.
It does nobody any good to conflate Zionism which is a very real fascist Israeli supremacy movement, with Semitism which refers to Jewishness regardless of culture or country.<p>As with many Fascist movements it is very much in the interest of those who follow the a Supremacy movement to conflate opposition of their movement with persecution of their culture.
> It does nobody any good to conflate Zionism which is a very real fascist Israeli supremacy movement, with Semitism which refers to Jewishness regardless of culture or country.<p>No. Zionism at its core is just the opinion that there needs to be a state of Israel, to serve as a "last safe haven" for all Jews in the world.
The disaster of the Iran war will be the legacy of Trump 2. A war that started because Netanyahu convinced Trump there was an imminent attack and fed us false intel on nuclear capabilities. That sounds like torching it to me.<p>ZOG as a conspiracy is nuts but you can’t deny the influence AIPAC has on Congress. Zionists have a very powerful lobby. Then you have guys like Fetterman who are making Israel their core issue.
>Of course, Donald Trump’s successors could keep repressive policies like this in place, much as Joe Biden did.<p>This proves once again who runs the US Gov, it is not the voters but the ultra-rich.
For voters to actually be in control, they would have to do straightforward things like reject the obviously terrible destructionist candidate in favor of the milquetoast corpo stooge. I would love to say it's as principled as "I chose the wrench" from Good Will Hunting. But from everything I've surmised it's that mass media propaganda is really strong - most people simply can't fit more than one thing in their head at once. Focus them on how bad A is and they will eagerly choose B all day long despite it being clearly worse.<p>A long time ago I had the realization that the primary information flow in democracy isn't the few bits from each citizen to the government, but rather it's from the candidates/parties to the people making them think they wanted any of the ensuing shit because they "chose" it. And I'd say Grumpism has thoroughly proven that out. The people who used to be your average conservatives are now radical reactionary destructionists, and if you nudge them to ponder their former values they wince at thinking too hard and then get angry at you.
[dupe] <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343</a>