> Thanks to the combined efforts of mildsunrise and chaos_princess, we discovered that ACE3 has pretty much the same register set as CD3217, only wrapped in a SPMI interface instead of addressed over I2C. Both the SPMI interface and ACE3 itself are now working in Asahi Linux, bringing USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt support to all M3 series devices.<p>When I got my M3 Pro MBP, I got it with the intention of eventually installing Linux on it. In hindsight I seriously underestimated the amount of effort needed for even partial Linux compatibility, which makes me all the more grateful for the work Asahi contributors have put in! I'll still be keeping macOS installed for iOS dev work(which I plan on doing soonish), but other than that all I really need is a web browser and Ghostty with good battery life.
> other than that all I really need is a web browser and Ghostty with good battery life.<p>Then why bother installing a different OS?
There might be no reason while the hardware is latest and greatest, but installing a different OS can keep old hardware going for longer. My 2014 Macbook Pro is uncomfortably slow on the last supported MacOS but works perfectly fine when running the latest Fedora.
This exactly sums up my long term feelings. Even now I’m annoyed by all the background bloat/tasks that are running on it, and I’d prefer being able to have more control over what runs on it for battery/performance reasons. Additionally, even though I’ve had it for years at this point, I think I’d still be more comfortable if I could use i3 with it.
And mine is as fast as I need, with Sway as my main DE. (With Arch Linux, but I bet Fedora wouldn’t be any worse.) The only reason to switch to M{1,2,3} is battery life. So, as soon as the external Thunderbolt display is going to work, I think I’m making the switch.
Preference?<p>You can dual boot Asahi when the time comes.
Or why bother buying an expensive machine in the first place...
"I paid thousands of dollars to apple who doesn't document their hardware or pay developers to contribute drivers Linux. Then I just waited for some unpaid volunteer to do it for me."
Unfortunately, the state of non-Apple hardware makes your parent’s comment a defensible position. Btw, using Linux in general means having “some unpaid volunteer do it for you”
I'm using Intel Thinkpad. And I'm pretty sure that Intel does a good amount of work upstreaming Intel support in Linux. So I'm not sure that using Linux in general means having some unpaid volunteer do it for you. In fact I believe that most Linux development nowadays is pretty far from unpaid volunteer work.<p>Regarding state of non-Apple hardware. Well, my laptop just works. Literally zero hardware or compatibility issues. Maybe Macbook is faster in artificial benchmarks, but in my day to day usage, Thinkpad is more than fast enough.
No it doesn't. This reads like someone who hasn't touched a non-apple Laptop in 15-20 years.
Unpaid volunteer? Hah! These people <i>want</i> to do it, for reasons unknown to me. They might enjoy it.<p>I'm not even sure about the unpaid part.
That's kind of how open source development works, right? We buy hardware and we use software people wrote for free. What am I missing?
A lot of hardware gets Linux support because the hardware manufacturer itself (Intel, AMD, Mediatek, NXP, Marvell, etc) takes responsibility for writing and upstreaming Linux drivers. This is how companies like Lenovo or Dell can offer systems with Linux preinstalled.
My steelman read of that would be that there is a difference between paying Apple a premium to make installing Linux hard vs. paying, say, Framework a premium to make installing Linux easy.
Except the Asahi Linux team are pretty insistent that Apple isn't making it particularly hard. Yes the hardware is novel, but hardly any hardware vendors share low level details on the Intel side either, all that has to be reverse engineered anyway.
Hm? Should we ban volunteers? Doing unpaid work is sort of their thing.
"I paid thousands of dollars to apple who provided a great hw product with their own OS preinstalled and free".
"... so that I can never switch to anything ever due to vendor lock-in, which includes hard-to-transfer data, muscle memory and habit forming not applicable to other OSes, accounts bound to iCloud, voluntary surrender of privacy, acceptance of planned obsolescence and non-repairability, lack of support beyond 'try turning it off-on' or 'replace your device for half its price', etc., etc. But hey, the hw is great!"
I have immense respect for the incredible work that the Asahi team does, but at the rate that Intel and AMD have been catching up on power efficiency I wonder whether anyone will really _have_ to run Linux on M series laptops. There was a clear case for it back when Apple silicon absolutely dominated anything else you could buy but with Panther Lake I'm not so sure that Apple's lead will continue to be big enough to justify needing to wait several years for full Linux hardware compatibility to be reverse engineered.
But, power efficiency isn't the primary reason I'd like Apple hardware with linux software.<p>Display quality, trackpad quality, overall form factor, and very high RAM space in a laptop would be the primary reasons I'd go with Asahi Linux.
Yeah, people miss that about apple laptop.<p>Find me another laptop that has everything, even if it's more expensive ! You can't, some have keyboard as good, some it's the display. In best case you got 2 or 3 things but then it goes downhill on the other, like the trackpad.
I agree.<p>I’ve been a big Lenovo fan, settled on the X1 carbon. I’ve had three of them, G5, G6 and G9. The USB-C port broke on both G6 and G9 models. Apparently it’s a common problem. Unfortunately the ports are soldered directly on the motherboard making it difficult to fix(should be a small separate board for easy replacement). I was going to desolder and replace the ports, but haven’t gotten around to it.<p>I’m now using a MacBook Pro M2.
This is exactly why I run asahi. There really is not a laptop that comes close to the hardware quality of an apple laptop. I have even sacrificed x86 at the altar which is a much bigger step than battery life imo.
> trackpad quality<p>This
> Display quality, trackpad quality, overall form factor, and very high RAM space in a laptop would be the primary reasons I'd go with [an Apple].<p>Heh, that's <i>precisely</i> one grouping of reasons I avoid Apple, especially with regards to trackpads and form factor (and, to a lesser degree, displays).
That's fair but also think about the ewaste.<p>I'm still hoping one of these mega AI LLMs will figure out how to install Linux on the many old iPads that become nearly useless after Apple stops updating them and you can't install new apps.
Oh definitely, there's great value in it for those who already own Macbooks for one reason or another. I just personally have found myself shying away from buying a Macbook multiple times over the years because the Asahi Linux experience was really really rough at the time & probably still is for the generations I would be interested in buying.
Please send all "ewaste" Apple silicon macbooks to me.
It depends on how long Apple want to support the devices, if the support matches the longevity of the devices maybe nobody really needs Asahi. I believe all Intel Macs have received their final macOS version now so it is almost time for Apple to make that decision for the M1 generation. I think an M1 Pro, Max or Ultra (or even an M1 with 16GB of RAM) still has many good years left.
OS LTS support barely matters when planned obsolescence is baked in at the hardware level. Wearing parts (eg. SSD) are soldered on newer macs and there's intensive efforts to make sure even if you have the tools you can't repair it.<p>Parts aren't available but if you get your hands on there's cryptographic parts pairing so it more or less can't be replaced: <a href="https://rossmanngroup.com/services/ssd-data-recovery/macbook/m-series-soldered-nand-recovery" rel="nofollow">https://rossmanngroup.com/services/ssd-data-recovery/macbook...</a><p>Overall, i wouldn't count on "many good years left".
My MacBook Pro M1 is 5 years old now and the SSD wear level is at 4%. SSD wear is not a problem for normal users.<p>Meanwhile Apple's standard OS support period is 7 years, that's a much more imminent limit.<p>Not saying that I support non-user-replaceable SSDs, but if your goal is reducing e-waste, there are more impactful changes to make.
Thanks, that's a fair data point. Although i'm sure it depends on actual user workloads.<p>I'm not saying that I support closed-source firmware, locked bootloaders, or even that replacing SSDs is the one true path to sustainability.<p>I believe it's a whole field and we shouldn't tolerate compromises on any level. It should be 100% illegal in any civilized country to sell the kind of lame hardware we have today. It should be 100% repairable, 100% open bootloader & free firmware, 100% public tech docs/datasheets. Original manufacturer OS support is not insignificant, but i believe it's only significant because we have so little control/understanding of the hardware/software stack.
You have trade offs though. Both with added effort during the development but also just physical limits with the amount of additional losses you have over clicked vs soldered connections
That's true. I can't say i'm 100% against soldering parts, that would be silly. What concerns me is that undocumented parts that are unavailable to buy as spare parts are soldered and have firmware that enforces pairing with a specific other part.<p>It would be reasonable if all components on a motherboard had to be sold as spare parts by law (not just the entire board that costs the same as the entire device, that's malicious compliance) and all spec sheets were made available. That might just make the economy of a repair shop work again.
Totally agree that lawmakers need to crack down on locked-down hardware.<p>The DMA crap that the EU passed even seems to go in the wrong direction, allowing Apple to audit the financials of anyone who makes an iOS app.<p>I was mostly just reacting to your "barely matters" wording :)
The thing about SSD failures is that in normal use, you can't wear one out. But in perfectly normal use, some of the units just die after N years (for very small number N in some cases). They don't warn. They don't show increased fault or wear counters. They just die and completely disappear from the bus and stop accepting any commands. There is no recovery and, I repeat, no warning.<p>That's why you have backups and drives are easy to replace, though reinstall/restore can be tedious.<p>Unless it's a soldered in one.
Yeah, I'm optimistic we're getting really close to "forever laptops" once competing hardware catches up on efficiency.<p>What do I need any higher specs for, other than battery life?
As someone who does a lot of work with local LLM's, today's systems feel woefully under-powered. I'm looking forward to a future where my laptop has 10x the memory, 100x the memory bandwidth, and optimized cores to make inference workflows that currently take minutes or hours go down to seconds or milliseconds.<p>While we're at the point where traditional software is pretty much fast enough for all but extreme use-cases, with LLM's it feels like we're back to the days where you press compile and go have a coffee or chat to your colleague.
Right now there isn’t really a convincing use case for local LLMs outside of enthusiast or specific niches.<p>It takes a lot of expensive hardware, and most people don’t have extreme enough requirements to recoup that investment.<p>That might change, but it would require either that hardware gets much cheaper or everyone’s demands for LLMs increase significantly.
Does anyone have to run Linux on an M series? I’m fairly confident it’s one of the most complex ways of running Linux…
Yeah, but there was a time when running Linux on a laptop was one of the most complex ways of running Linux. Now I just expect everything to work, especially if I buy from Lenovo, Dell, or HP.<p>There was a time when Wi-Fi, or Wayland, or XComposite, or Linux gaming, or just accelerated graphics at all or, or, or... People get excited, they work on it, other people get excited and mess about, and eventually it just works.<p>I would love to one day pick up a decommissioned M1 Ultra and use my OS of choice on it, and I'm grateful for the people who are doing the hard thing now.
Make an example of something comparable to a MacBook Pro M series, and I'll buy it asap!<p>I really want to go back to linux, but mbp is just too good!
Intel has stopped pushing clock speeds to such ridiculous extremes, so battery life is getting better.<p>However they still have to nail single core performance on chips that can operate without a fan before they can be said to have caught up.
You can't run an egpu (amd or nvidia) on macos so that's one thing I could see switching for. I did just discover tinygrad though due to a hackernews comment, but not sure its performance.<p>Also Tahoes absolutely horrendous performance for the last year..
What Laptop would you purchase that gives hardware equivalent to a MacBook Pro?
> wait several years for full Linux hardware compatibility<p>I'm not convinced it's only "several years".<p>Asahi was launched in January 2021. So 5 and a half years ago. Asahi, as far as I can tell, supports most of M1 and M2 features, so generations launched in November 2020 (6 years ago) and June 2022 (4 years ago).<p>I would be very surprised if a decade from now the story won't still be the same thing: 90% of features for systems half a decade old with software package gaps in important areas and everything slightly less optimized than MacOS.<p>Asahi is doing incredible work but it's still 5 people in a garage vs the huge corporation.
> 90% of features for systems half a decade old<p>This can be a good tradeoff. An M1 Ultra still runs circles around 90% of consumer hardware sold today, and with Linux it has easily another 10+ years. Now support for M3 is coming.<p>> Asahi is doing incredible work but it's still 5 people in a garage vs the huge corporation.<p>Not sure why the "vs" scenario, this is a project that makes no promises. And I think they do have some support from Fedora / Red Hat fwiw.
> This can be a good tradeoff.<p>That's a good tradeoff for durable hardware with available spare parts. That's not a good tradeoff for hardware that was designed so it cannot be repaired, such as newer Macs.
> Not sure why the "vs" scenario, this is a project that makes no promises. And I think they do have some support from Fedora / Red Hat fwiw.<p>They are building something in an environment that's not supportive of what they're doing. Contrast with Intel or AMD.
> but at the rate that Intel and AMD have been catching up on power efficiency<p>Have they? What AMD or Intel laptop with Linux on it can hold a candle to and M4 air or an M4max pro? Genuinely curious, cause I found none...
Framework 13 pro with new Intel chips claims to run 20h of 4k Netflix stream, or 17h of light web browsing @250 nits.<p>That said these numbers are with windows.
No idea but my Framework 12 goes for days without charging. I really haven't seen any real world need for M chips.<p>Granted Im not compiling large projects on a train all day but who is.
The main power advantage of the apple chips is when the system is mostly idle - under mid to high load power to watt has been comparable for a few years already (at least AMD and Apple, intel was way behind - but I guess they caught up recently). The main reason behind my M3 MBP back then wasn't so much power efficiency - but that I can get it with 96GB of RAM.<p>It's nice that I can go a full office day without charging - the previous x86 notebook couldn't, but a decent one from the M3 generation probably could as well. But also if I put proper load an that thing the Macbook battery is done in less than 2 hours.
<i>raises hand</i>, but point taken when painting with broad strokes
> Framework 12 ... days without charging<p>I don't see how? it is a 50Wh battery. Even at 6W that is about 8h of usage? On what OS + workload on x86 are you seeing just 6W usage? Or is it that each day your usage is only 2 hours?
My amd thinkpad idles at 3w, watching youtube is about 4.5-5w.
It's probably 2-3 hours a day. Runs latest Kubuntu currently.
AMD Strix Halo?
Even if amd or intel caught up the Apple hardware is just built better and is far higher quality.
i snatched a lenovo yoga slim aura with a core 5 226 for 650 euro. Its build quality is on par if not better than the colleague's macbook, it's pretty good for working, runs fedora natively, battery last at least 12 hours unless i'm playing games.
The build quality is not even close.<p>And macbooks are reaching 18-20 hours usage on battery nowadays, I have stopped carrying the power adapter most of the time.<p>Of course it’s significantly more expensive, but you do get what you pay for.
I'm a bit opponent of Apple's walled garden, but the build quality of this laptop is quite far away from a MacBook... Except the display, this OLED WXHQwhatever is stunning.<p>Source: I bought the same (with core i7, so it's performant, etc.).
Higher-end Thinkpads are pretty nice in terms of build quality. Trackpads and screens are worse, but they will physically last just as long.
We seriously need an open hardware law or something. Like it doesn't have to be regulation necessarily (as by law) but we really need to start very strongly pressuring/forcing companies to open up their hardware and provide all documentation to get any operating system to run on it, and to hell with what the manufacturer wants (to prevent things like attestation requirements). This entire "just let random volunteers figure it out" isn't sustainable and locks out competition.
I think you’ll also find that the best way to strongly pressure companies to do something is by law. The work that Right to Repair advocates have been doing across the industry is fantastic.
this seems like it should fall within a right to repair context
I hope they will support M4 soon, I cant stand macos and its desire to be different
than everything else by custom keyboard shortcuts etc.<p>After 2 years of usage, I still have issues with basic actions like copy paste.<p>edit: omg, writing this post, i checked if there is some way to use linux shortcuts and there is (Kanesh/KMonad or Karabiner-Elements). Maybe my suffering will finally stop.
Counterpoint: OSX has the only sane copy paste shortcuts. The linux standard of "sometimes ctrl-c/v, sometimes shift-ctrl-c/v, and if you mess up you might kill your task" is preposterous.
The command key really has to be my favorite thing about OSX, it lets you do system things without intercepting whatever is going on in the terminal. It also leaves the ctrl key with barely any use, so you can just customize its behavior (for example, I have ctrl+opt+some letter keys assigned to different desktops/spaces, that works great for me)
My favourite thing about the command key is the position - it’s way further to the right than ctrl on most keyboards, which means you don’t have to contort your thumb back and apply lateral pressure to your thumb joint when copy-pasting.<p>I’m either doing it wrong on Windows or the entire world is putting up with unnecessary finger pain because whoever chose Ctrl-C was a masochist.
Originally, the Ctrl key was to the left of A, where Caps Lock is now. This makes most Ctrl key shortcuts a lot more comfortable. They moved Ctrl to the bottom left with the Model M keyboard, which became the standard modern PC keyboard layout. As far as I can tell, the justification for this was that it made the layout more familiar to typewriter users, since Caps Lock is in the same position it's in on a typewriter (see <a href="https://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/pc/IBM_Personal_Computer_Seminar_Proceedings/PC_Seminar_V04_N02_198604.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/pc/IBM_Personal_Computer_Semin...</a> page 24). Personally, I always remap my key layout on every PC I use so left Ctrl is swapped with Caps Lock.
I'm not sure what hand position you're using, but on the keyboard I'm at right now, I put my left little finger on control, and use my left index finger for the c/v. Do you mean that you're using your thumb for control and index for c/v?
Ctrl/Shift+Insert are the actual standard, from IBM's CUA.
Aren’t the shortcuts with the command key older than the PC ones (which started out as Shift+Insert etc. actually)? I wouldn’t call that desire to be different (also as mentioned below it has a lot of advantages in a terminal)
Or the more usual argument: Macos is broken in many ways and you're not allowed to fix it. But you can install some kind of add-on that will sit between you and the broken-as-designed UI and makes it look non-broken.
If someone needs it, <a href="https://github.com/Fuzzy-and-Fluffy/windows-keyboard-for-mac" rel="nofollow">https://github.com/Fuzzy-and-Fluffy/windows-keyboard-for-mac</a><p>(to replies, yes, i understand that macos keyboard shortcuts might objectively be better, but if you are using multiple computers and macos is the only one of OSs, those shortcuts become pain in the neck)
What I did was to simply remap Command to Control in the built-in keyboard settings. I don't know if that would solve your problems with shortcuts, but it solved mine. Muscle memory remains intact. The physical key combos on the Mac are now largely the same as on Windows or Linux.
This project has been so impressive and exciting. I hope power management is a serious concern once they nail all the reverse engineering and functionality. Battery life would be a huge differentiator for the day to day macbook usage and traditionally Linux has been terrible at that due to lack of proprietary & highly tuned drivers
>The ARM specification mandates that cores in WFI loops should preserve all state. This is not the default mode on Apple Silicon.<p>I sometimes do wonder at what point do ARM find and test these stuff and ask Apple to follow. Obviously this is not the first time we see such thing happened.
This is allowed as long as you hold the architectural license (which Apple does), and the register is not exposed to userspace (this register is accessible only from kernel)
My understanding is that Apple has an extremely special license with ARM partially because they helped fund ARM when it was spun out of Acorn and they are not required to conform to the specifications like other licensees.
Amazing progress as usual. It’s been fun watching just how much a few people can accomplish over the last few years despite working on sometimes unstable sand.
I truly understand the frustration of people asking when will it be done, and that DP Alt Mode got past that point. However it was in an official progress report, but then the last three don't mention it at all. (I have been running it without issue that whole time). A single line on the current scale of outstanding bugs would really help.
> If you think about it, m1n1 is almost like our own firmware for Apple Silicon.<p>If you really think about it, it's kinda amusing how far we came from <a href="https://wiibrew.org/wiki/MINI" rel="nofollow">https://wiibrew.org/wiki/MINI</a> being used to bootstrap homebrew on the Nintendo Wii on PPC to being used to fire up our Macs daily running Asahi on ARM.
Yeah, you'll find out that va-api is not a good match for v4l2-requests. It does not pass decoded bitstream to the drivers as is, but pre-computes some things for some codecs, while v4l2-requests mostly expects original information parsed from the bitstream.<p><a href="https://xff.cz/git/libva-v4l2_request/" rel="nofollow">https://xff.cz/git/libva-v4l2_request/</a>
Someone out there can go and build a cancer vaccine for their dog, and I can't even find a door into projects like this — that's on me.
Forget a PR, even making a comment feels devastating - human communication -.
I have everything it takes to help this project, and I can do nothing.
Lovely.
> Please stop Thinking Different<p>Considering how much better m-series CPUs are, i’d say actually keep thinking different.
As Apple themselves proved with M1-M3, you can make really good cpus without violating the ARM architecture spec in dumb ways. Why they decided to do that in M4+ is anyone's guess.
AFAWK, M6 CPU is a die shrink of M5, so unless something M7 present that will significantly improve CPU performance. The ARM C1 CPU core that is available to everyone has pretty much matched up to Apple. And that is all things included from performance, power, die size etc.
I was seriously worried the various incompatibilities the M3 bootloader had with Asahi's debugging setup would mean way slower bring-up than M1 and M2 had. Seems like that wasn't the case - or, at least, won't be the case anymore.
Seems like once they got past that things weren’t too bad. Could have been way more incompatibilities waiting on the other side.
The processor version with the debugging incompstibilities was M4, I think.
Is Asahi an LLM-hostile project? I'd imagine this is something that would be benefitted tremendously with a Fable class model
> Meanwhile, donations and pledges kept slowly decreasing, and have done so since the project launched. Not enough to spell immediate doom for my dream of working on Asahi full time in the short term, but enough to make me wonder if any of this was really appreciated. The all-time peak monthly donation volume was the very first month or two. It seemed the more things we accomplished, the less support we had.<p>I think the issue is funding is so low the developers don’t even have access to newer Apple Siicon, let alone funding for token costs, etc.<p><a href="https://marcan.st/2025/02/resigning-as-asahi-linux-project-lead/" rel="nofollow">https://marcan.st/2025/02/resigning-as-asahi-linux-project-l...</a>
> It is the opinion of the Board that Large Language Models (LLMs), herein referred to as Slop Generators, are unsuitable for use as software engineering tools, particularly in the Free and Open Source Software movement.<p><a href="https://asahilinux.org/docs/project/policies/slop/" rel="nofollow">https://asahilinux.org/docs/project/policies/slop/</a>
Using LLMs in a project like this is also somewhat illegal, because LLMs may have inside information about apple devices and it's not allowed to use it.
do you have a source for this? it doesn't really make sense to me
That's nonsense, then it would also be somewhat illegal to use it inside Apple, being trained on GPL licensed code (and it's not even a possibility here but a known fact)
And all that with a hard fork of kernel
I've pretty much given up on Asahi because of the years-long delays, and because there's no performant way to share disk space for data with MacOS.<p>By running Linux in a VM on MacOS on Apple silicon, you sacrifice some raw speed but in return you still get to run MacOS apps occasionally and have access to the same data from either MacOS or Linux without having to duplicate everything. And battery life is reasonable, which is not true yet with Asahi.
Not saying your VM approach isn't right for you, but:<p>><i>and because there's no performant way to share disk space for data with MacOS</i><p>Have you tried a ZFS partition? If it's a desktop system use iSCSI to network storage (I'm not running Linux directly on my Studio or M4 mini but I still put my Home folder on the network)?
i mean it's great to see that linux getting popular among users and it's great that having access to use linux on mac
I'm extremely excited to hear that the hypervisor now works on M4! Can't wait to try out Asahi in a year or two.
macOS is so terrible. Godspeed!
To downvoters: historically, a decent number of Windows and Linux users would run the operating systems on Apple hardware. I myself ran a triple-boot between macOS, Windows and Linux for years (although I still mainly used the machine for macOS). Apple Silicon demolished that market, and Asahi Linux is like a light at the end of the tunnel for those users who were entirely left behind by the ARM transition.
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It’s a shame that Macs have leading processors and hardwares but Apple can’t make Linux first-class. I know they have full builds internally so it’s not a matter of resources.<p>It’s simply a business decision for Apple. And quite a dumb one at that. Here’s hoping that Ternus reverses that shortsighted decision.
Fantastic to see the progress and a fascinating detailed write-up.<p>You have to appreciate the effort Apple puts into security - goes some way to understanding why they won't endorse/support installing an alternative operating system.
Everyone is free to work on whatever they want, but...<p>I wish the amount of time and brain power spent on this project was instead used to work on something more friendly to the Linux community.<p>For example to improve Strix Halo GPU and NPU support.
People who work on Asahi want exactly that - working on black box hardware with no specification.<p>Most likely they just not interested in working on well maintained drivers that require 1000 times more effort to upstream code.
Really seems like the worlds most complex and intriguing sudoku - it would all go away if Apple bothered to properly document their hardware.
I agree with this sentiment. If someone wants to do a bunch of reverse engineering, maybe they could try to get full mainline support for older Qualcomm mobile phone/tablet SoCs and minimize/get rid of BLOBs?<p>All the fun of reverse engineering and we know the processors already run Linux...
Do you think Asahi is developing too slow? If yes could it be due to the anti AI policy?