I highly recommend feeding all your proprietary data and confidential personal information into this model as quickly as possible. What could possibly go wrong?!<p>In terms of equivalence of suspicion, this is the external inference provider equivalent of getting free steak that was smuggled out of a grocery store inside somebody's pants.
All of my non-work AI coding is that open-source, so I'm happy to feed my data into the machine.<p>It's a win for me: my code goes into the training data, and my sessions are fed into future training data, making the model stronger at the type of work I do.
It's Chinese. Won't answer anything about Tiananmen Square but will gleefully give you instructions to perform various electronic warfare attacks that opus and fable instantly refuse.
I had the opposite experience. It happily discusses Tiananmen Square but said it would refuse to help with anything "malicious" like writing malware or phishing content.
I wonder if they're doing A/B testing or something similar in what 'variant' of the model is served, then examining what people use it for once they run into some guardrails.
Try:
"What happened at Tiananmen Square in 1989"
It gave a very detailed overview, talked about potential deaths involved. I asked for a list of criticisms of the CCP and it gave what I think was a fair list, mainly that they're an authoritarian uniparty and have a track record of various human rights abuses
Rumors from other sources based on how it behaves it's mimo v3
"Prompts and completions are retained by the provider and are not used for training..."<p>I'm curious what the model provider is using the prompt/response pairs for, in that case. They aren't offering a model for free without their name on it for no reason.
Research, analytics, usage trends, etc. All still incredibly valuable for a company building and tuning an LLM; even if the data itself isn’t directly used in the training set.
Stealth Model, is this a CTF?<p>LLM needs to become more transparent, not less. Hence, this idea (and trend, possibly) is disgusting.<p>How can we even possibly verify 'Prompts and completions are retained by the provider and are not used for training...'? What if the training is done, but used internally?
Can someone enlighten me? I honestly don't get what it is or what it's for. Surely OpenRouter knows who the providers are?
Yeah these stealth models pop up from time to time. Openrouter knows, but doesn't share. Users can use a testing version of something for free and in return the provider generally is allowed to retain the prompts sent in to get real world use. In the past I only really remember using one that was surprisingly good, and then it turned out to be GLM-5.1, speculating on what one this ends up being is part of the fun.
<a href="https://x.com/OpenRouter/status/2090544970923184269" rel="nofollow">https://x.com/OpenRouter/status/2090544970923184269</a>
<a href="https://xcancel.com/OpenRouter/status/2090544970923184269" rel="nofollow">https://xcancel.com/OpenRouter/status/2090544970923184269</a>
Yea, nice try there North Korea.
When a model is free like this what kind of rate limits are there?
I'm against stealth models—we should know what it is and see a model card with a list of safety considerations. Bit ridiculous of a practice to me.
We can know if this is Anthropic/OpenAI by testing the "guardrails" - absurd guardrails = it's them, reasonable/no guardrails = Chinese models..<p>(as a bonus - thinking forever = GLM)