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  • stared16 minutes ago
    Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”.<p>“Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.”<p>From: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;forbetterscience.bsky.social&#x2F;post&#x2F;3mhvi2mgosc2i" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bsky.app&#x2F;profile&#x2F;forbetterscience.bsky.social&#x2F;post&#x2F;3...</a>
  • supriyo-biswas25 minutes ago
    This is a really confusing one, since neither the &quot;AI generated paper&quot; nor &quot;translation issue&quot; explanations hold.<p>I found [1], created all the way back in 2021, which seems to first introduce this &quot;kidney disappointment&quot; term, and I would have to assume that perhaps the authors preferred to translate it from their native language.<p>LLMs did not exist in their current form in 2021, so couldn&#x27;t have used it to write down a coherent thought, let alone a paper, at the time.<p>At the same time, I do live in the same country as the authors, and while we don&#x27;t speak the best English, being a student at a college without some familiarity of the English language to come up with the term &quot;kidney disappointment&quot; is, let&#x27;s just say, hard to believe for me.<p>Edit: This other comment[1] made me realize what it might have been: plagiarism avoidance.<p>Unfortunately, many colleges here do not have the best reputation and often run like degree mills, and the aforementioned comment made me remember a conversation with a friend, who mentioned writing a review paper.<p>Again, LLMs were not really a thing at the time, so they mentioned how they had to run their paper through a plagiarism detection tool, and then they substituted words with their synonyms. I guess someone really did search for the word &quot;failure&quot; and found &quot;disappointment&quot; as a term.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.researchgate.net&#x2F;profile&#x2F;Suprodip-Mandal&#x2F;publication&#x2F;354379680_Review_Epitomize_on_Applications_of_Diuretics&#x2F;links&#x2F;6135a82c38818c2eaf857c46&#x2F;Review-Epitomize-on-Applications-of-Diuretics.pdf?__cf_chl_tk=Vv8pd7azhAAdCtwT1.3In2R4Hi8IjBlPNb2XmkF3iHg-1786885623-1.0.1.1-x7WTRD.RhG3NquvCll1ECpG3e1i7XL9daSOo9Ao5eFo" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.researchgate.net&#x2F;profile&#x2F;Suprodip-Mandal&#x2F;publica...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49319764">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=49319764</a>
    • bhouston3 minutes ago
      Could it just be neural translation? It existed since the mid 2010s.
  • dash217 minutes ago
    And there&#x27;s more. In political science: &quot;average voter theorem&quot;, which turns out at least some plagiarism <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=%22average+voter+theorem%22&amp;btnG=" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=%22a...</a><p>In statistics: &quot;tendency score matching&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=%22tendency+score+matching%22++&amp;btnG=" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=%22t...</a>
  • lkm032 minutes ago
    It&#x27;s actually pretty funny to look for such synonym expressions <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=%22heart%20fiasco%22" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scholar.google.com&#x2F;scholar?hl=en&amp;as_sdt=0%2C5&amp;q=%22h...</a> turns up a few more. If you want to read more, I believe those are called &quot;tortured phrases&quot;
    • armchairhacker21 minutes ago
      From 2021: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2107.06751" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arxiv.org&#x2F;abs&#x2F;2107.06751</a><p>And SCIgen was generating bullshit papers that actually managed to be published in 2005: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SCIgen" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;SCIgen</a>
    • kaddar26 minutes ago
      Well, yes, and I call them &#x27;distressed phrases&#x27;
      • bot40317 minutes ago
        Well I call it tax avoision.
  • Molitor590144 minutes ago
    Huh.. Ok I&#x27;ll play along. Could this be a translation issue? I confess the first thing that leaped to mind was.. could it be AI written? But I didn&#x27;t want to leap to that but.. it&#x27;s .. such a strange word that is not expected in .. I guess formal medical training.
    • amelius42 minutes ago
      AI changing words for watermarking purposes.
      • Molitor590140 minutes ago
        Interesting! I started reading and there are so many sentences like “gauges an individual&#x27;s gamble of kidney disappointment.”<p>Changing words for watermarking .. I understand why it may do that .. but .. what an unfortunate choice of where to do it.
        • TheOtherHobbes5 minutes ago
          The substitutions are transparent and don&#x27;t change the meaning. What can possible go incorrectly?
      • dash241 minutes ago
        Isn&#x27;t it more likely to be changing words to disguise plagiarism?<p>Update: looking at some of these, I think it is probably just poor machine translation.
        • Molitor590129 minutes ago
          Yeah some kind of translation issue. The papers seem to know what they&#x27;re talking about, and I don&#x27;t entirely get the AI gut feeling, only on the key words.
        • Molitor590138 minutes ago
          Good point, but I see lots of articles are using this &quot;kidney disappointment&quot; so maybe but.. holy toledo look at <i>Impacts of Renal Transplantation and its Mental (2023)</i> by Renan Kamath : “organ disillusionment,” “kidney relocate dismissal,” and “excusal of the moved organ.”
          • dash233 minutes ago
            &quot;waste can build to exorbitant level inside the blood, which harms both kidney and closures in kicking the bucket... &quot;<p>&quot;Regularly, it&#x27;s more irritating than it is not kidding...&quot;<p>(Pal and Gautam 2018)
          • flexagoon27 minutes ago
            Its like when you write a school essay and look up every second word in a thesaurus thinking it makes the essay better
  • dofm23 minutes ago
    Many of us are old enough to remember “medireview”, which emerged from different automatic replacement reasons.
  • api20 minutes ago
    I’m giving my kidneys a participation trophy.
  • bjourne25 minutes ago
    Tortured phrases, clear signs of fraud or plagiarism: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;problematic-paper-screener-trawling-for-fraud-in-the-scientific-literature-246317" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;problematic-paper-screener-trawl...</a>