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  • acdha1 hour ago
    In addition to being cheaper, you never hear about a massive sun or wind spill and the prices never change due to events thousands of miles away.
    • ben_w59 minutes ago
      Onion headlines aside*, we kinda do? This summer&#x27;s European heatwave is due to emissions worldwide**; while the historical record has the early emissions from Europe, all the other inhabited continents have also contributed to it since then.<p>* <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theonion.com&#x2F;solar-power-investment-skyrockets-upon-discovery-of-mas-1849458050&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theonion.com&#x2F;solar-power-investment-skyrockets-upon-...</a><p>** There&#x27;s also a big El Niño event, the Wikipedia page on the heatwave currently expressly denies that this contributed: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;2026_European_heatwaves" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;2026_European_heatwaves</a>
      • dyzone54 minutes ago
        &gt; Onion headlines aside<p>Well technically speaking crude oil is a form of solar energy. (Sun -&gt; plants -&gt; animals -&gt; crude oil)
        • MikeNotThePope51 minutes ago
          What energy sources do we have that don&#x27;t ultimately derive from either solar of radioactive decay? Residual heat from object formation perhaps.
          • ben_w45 minutes ago
            &gt; solar of radioactive decay<p>We can do fusion, but given the only large sources of that are fusion bombs and nobody wants a bomb-based power plant… :P
          • _joel50 minutes ago
            Gravity, just ask Jupiters&#x27; Moons.
        • x______________48 minutes ago
          Isn&#x27;t solar derived from nuclear fusion?<p>Nukes for the win!
      • nisegami41 minutes ago
        &gt;There&#x27;s also a big El Niño event, the Wikipedia page on the heatwave currently expressly denies that this contributed<p>But isn&#x27;t that accurate? The ENSO is a specific phenomenon in the Pacific and it&#x27;s not clear to me how that would impact the EU in such a direct manner.
    • andsoitis55 minutes ago
      Oil is used for a lot more than power generation.
      • Symbiote52 minutes ago
        28% is used for petrochemicals and &quot;other&quot;.<p>The rest is for energy, mostly for transport.
    • binyu51 minutes ago
      Yep, that&#x27;s one of the reasons it is called &quot;green&quot; energy. On top of renewability, the environmental impact of production is radically different from fossil fuels.
    • mhh__54 minutes ago
      The prices do change because (many, at least) renewable projects are subsidised via CFD schemes and so on and atop of that are selling into a spot market that may (it varies) pay them more than what they offer into the market.<p>It&#x27;s wonderful technology, the sun is god and so on, but we can&#x27;t run everything on bursty renewables.
    • gertrunde46 minutes ago
      Wind spill?<p>Like... A hurricane?<p>Sun spill?<p>Like... A coronal mass ejection?
      • sd943 minutes ago
        But hurricanes are going to happen regardless of whether you have a turbine
    • ekianjo1 hour ago
      good luck building solar without having any petrol or plastics derived from petrol in the supply chain
      • hdgvhicv46 minutes ago
        About 5kG of polymers per kw. That’s about a gallon of oil if it all came from oil. Where I live a 1kW solar panel offsets 100 litres of oil in a car every year. Oil from a single full tank of petrol could produce enough energy to drive a car about 1 million miles over its lifetime.
      • savolai59 minutes ago
        Also see: black and white or false dilemma fallacy
      • ben_w50 minutes ago
        Oh no, turns out that even if we stop burning oil we still need 6% of it for plastics, clearly this means there&#x27;s no environmental benefit to reducing how much we ship by 94%, and we can&#x27;t possibly for example move the plastic production to where the oil comes from so what we ship isn&#x27;t crude and oh look people are already genetically modifying bacteria to produce oils suitable for various of the huge range of things in the category &quot;plastic&quot;, which is such a broad range of things that saying anything about the whole lot in one go is a bit like saying &quot;eat more fruit&quot; when you mean &quot;you are short of vitamin C specifically&quot;, oh wait hang on a minute…
      • ThrowawayTestr58 minutes ago
        It&#x27;s a good thing we burn all these precious hydrocarbons, less microplastics in the environment.
    • indiantrains1 hour ago
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    • epolanski1 hour ago
      Electricity cost is pegged to energy cost and wars happening on the other end of the planet influence it directly.<p>That includes renewables.
      • nisegami38 minutes ago
        Maybe to the end consumer after being integrated into a grid, but the cost to the owner of installed solar&#x2F;wind energy infrastructure should not change.
  • CrzyLngPwd1 hour ago
    Just one of the many unintended consequences of the USA and Israel attacking Iran.
    • hdgvhicv44 minutes ago
      Unintended perhaps but not unpredictable. Distracting from the fact the US elected a paedo, twice, is worth it to the MAGAs.
      • stingraycharles37 minutes ago
        It was actually predicted and advised against but the decision to go ahead was made anyway.
    • readthenotes142 minutes ago
      Unintended but not unforeseeable?<p>I think &quot;acceptable&quot; is a better adjective here, though people like to disassociate by using &quot;collateral&quot;, like with the school of girls blown up the first day...
    • SadErn45 minutes ago
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  • redsocksfan451 hour ago
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  • throw12345678911 hour ago
    Business is business.