If looks are important for employment how then men find a job? Men are mostly unattractive even compared to not a perfect woman. In terms of looks and style, average man loses to an average woman. Or employers require only women to be attractive?
I'd be surprised if there <i>wasn't</i> a similar dynamic for men. While men probably have a wider range of "acceptable" physical flaws as compared to women, that doesn't mean there isn't a range. A morbidly obese man is probably going to have a tougher time finding a job than a similarly skilled fit and trim man.<p>Part of this is probably unconscious, but another part is probably explicit assumptions about the person's self-discipline, e.g. the fit guy must get up at 6am every morning and go for a run, and the obese guy probably sleeps in, eats trash, etc.
> Part of this is probably unconscious, but another part is probably explicit assumptions about the person's self-discipline, e.g. the fit guy must get up at 6am every morning and go for a run, and the obese guy probably sleeps in, eats trash, etc.<p>More like stereotypes.<p>For some reason I took both GLP-1 and Ritalin everyday, having moderate exercises despite throwups, only see myself gaining weight rather than losing. I have no idea why both drugs that claims to lose weight only to do the exact opposite, and perhaps I'm the kind of people who can only get fat and not losing it despite some joint efforts.<p>Perhaps it is not enough and I have to go full aerobatic and ketone mode. Money money money.
Was GLP-1 oral? Those off-brand lozenges don't do anything.<p>A real GLP-1 slows down digestion so much that if you try to overeat you'll regret it. You'll still be uncomfortably full and ready to throw up on day 2 after that big meal.
Exercise basically doesn't do anything for your weight.<p>Have you reduced your calorie consumption?
Men get the same effect through things that are traditionally masculine. Off the top of my head, things like height, ruggedness, and for clothes you want straight lines (such as with suits, which a well-fitting one has a lot of and a badly fitting one curves around the body and breaks the straight lines).
People look for different things for "beauty" in men and women.<p>Taller people--an area where men have a very distinct advantage--make more money and have an easier go of things.<p><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X23000540" rel="nofollow">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X2...</a><p>"Based on the meta-analysis, we found evidence that the height premium varied by context: the height premium was smaller in the U.S. and Australia, and larger in Latin America and Asia. Within geographies, there appeared to be a larger height premium for men than for women."
I don't think anyone can objectively judge the attractiveness of both genders on one scale.
Men tend to work in less public facing/social career fields. Your appearance doesn’t matter much if you’re a linesman or a welder; it matters more if you’re doing sales or supporting clients. Probably not the entire story, I think people do have different expectations for men and women, but certainly part of it.
you know a pretty fair majority of men are working in white collar office work, which is directly comparable in terms of public facing and social careers?<p>real loosely, something like 1/3, 40% are in these blue collar fields, and even in those fields there are enough sales and similar roles that prefer better appearances.
Just go to a fast food place. There's a strong tendency to have guys in the back cooking, girls in the front at the register.
Well you kinda said it yourself? If men are generally unattractive then a man should be less likely to lose out to a better-looking man, simply because there's fewer of these to go around.
Maybe to you, I personally find both the average man and woman attractive. Women spend more time taking care of their bodies though, given societal pressures
Not exactly sure why this is downvoted - seems like a genuine question.<p>Here's a random Internet troll's theory (mine): there's a kernel of truth to the whole "patriarchy" thing. It's just that most men aren't part of it.<p>Hold that pitchfork for just a moment! What I meant was: the entire economy is controlled by a very small number of people. Most of them are men, and they have very particular preferences. Assuming the majority of them are straight, it would make sense that they prefer women they see as pretty, and don't care much about men. If anything, a good looking man might be a competitor.<p>I don't think this idea is completely nuts. Think of the few times in history when a woman had real power. For example, Catherine the Great. Who was suddenly promoted to positions of influence? Sexy men, her "favorites" (yes, that's an actual term).
> Men are mostly unattractive<p>Could it be that _you_ are simply be not as attracted to men as you are to women?
> If looks are important for employment how then men find a job?<p>This feels very fallacious. Attractiveness can be important but not the only factor that matters.<p>Height is a way that men are judged as attractive. Likewise, tall men tend to do better than short men on income and promotions.
Go to the barber, to to the tailor, go the gym...<p>All these things help.
It's attractiveness all the way down
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_beauty_contest" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_beauty_contest</a>
yes! i still wondering why feminism had to be created /s