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  • nl10 minutes ago
    Background: Meta&#x2F;Facebook, Google and Apple all support age verification. It gives them legal cover and for their ad platforms gives better data.<p>But Meta&#x2F;FB have been strongly lobbying to make it required at the OS level, so they aren&#x27;t responsible for it, whereas Google and Apple both want it to be an application responsibility.<p>I think the CA version of this ended up with a carve-out for open source? I can&#x27;t recall the details.
    • isdononthephone9 minutes ago
      &gt; all support age verification<p>No, they all support harvesting your data so they can continue doing what they do best: building shadow profiles and targeting ads.<p>Nothing a signal of an age group tells them more than &quot;send me more ads for XX year-olds&quot;.<p>Why do you think it&#x27;s always a question asked in online surveys?
  • rendaw38 minutes ago
    &gt; The law also stipulates that all transmitted digital signals have to be encrypted.<p>I&#x27;m hoping there&#x27;s nuance, but I&#x27;m surprised the article didn&#x27;t go deeper on this too. ARP? ICMP? DHCP?<p>I can&#x27;t actually load the bill to read it ATM.
    • nerdsniper14 minutes ago
      try here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ilga.gov&#x2F;Legislation&#x2F;BillStatus&#x2F;FullText?GAID=18&amp;DocNum=5511&amp;DocTypeID=HB&amp;LegId=167486&amp;SessionID=114" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ilga.gov&#x2F;Legislation&#x2F;BillStatus&#x2F;FullText?GAID=18&amp;Doc...</a><p>It only requires the encryption of the specific age-bracket signals mandated by Section 10 of the bill. What you&#x27;re looking for is here:<p>Section 10. Age assurance requirements. ... (d) All digital signals transmitted in accordance with this Section shall be encrypted to ensure data integrity and security.
  • deckiedan1 hour ago
    From reading the article, it sounds like an enforced standardisation? Like, asking for account age bracket and then having a standard API to ask for it would be easy, right? Just write it to a root owned `~&#x2F;.age-bracket` for each user or something (obviously something better).<p>It&#x27;s a feature many apps implement in all kinds of ways already, especially games and social media stuff, so this, in theory, just makes it easier and consistent?<p>I&#x27;m against leaking our kids ages, and all the privacy and other concerns as much as anyone, but are we just getting overly angry too quickly on this one?<p>I get that it&#x27;s a slippery slope too.
    • ares62335 minutes ago
      It passes responsibility and accountability from the large platforms to the open-source communities and to parents who are most likely tech illiterate.<p>Facebook, etc. can wash their hands when they &quot;accidentally&quot; serve gambling ads (or whatever) to children and say &quot;well it&#x27;s not our fault the parent has the laptop misconfigured&quot;<p>It&#x27;s classic blaming the victim.
      • ronsor31 minutes ago
        I disagree. The parents are the ones who should be supervising. The work should not be pushed off to OSS devs or random website operators. Facebook is bad, but I&#x27;d rather deal with one Facebook than kill 1000 normal sites with bad legislation.
        • defrost21 minutes ago
          &gt; The parents are the ones who should be supervising.<p>Ok. When Alice &amp; Bob come home from school what steps should every parent take to supervise A&amp;B&#x27;s phone and device usage over the past 48 hours?<p>Internet history, of course - for all the browsers, including those hidden away? But what if the logs are wiped or the second BraveFoxChrome installation isn&#x27;t obvious?<p>Must every parent have an IT degree?<p>What if the parents are very good plumbers and car mechanics, should they also be expert in software design and installation?
          • isdononthephone14 minutes ago
            &gt; What if the parents are very good plumbers and car mechanics, should they also be expert in software design and installation?<p>You know who else are not experts in software design and installation? Fossil politicians and slimy bureaucrats.<p>Name one public sector state or local website that isn&#x27;t utter garbage and a nightmare to use. Go ahead I&#x27;ll wait.<p>They need to get their sticky donut-eating fingers out of my personal computer.
          • ares62312 minutes ago
            Never mind the fact that Facebook, etc. has BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH of software engineers, designers, psychologists making absolutely damn sure that little Alice &amp; Bob keep their nice little eyes glued and their little thumbs scrolling.
  • stevenalowe26 minutes ago
    illogical hubris - no state can regulate the internet; no state can compel developers to write code. the court cases on this will be interesting
  • orionblastar1 hour ago
    This is censorship; it is like saying you can&#x27;t eat a steak because a baby can&#x27;t chew it. They will try to ban Linux or fine Linux developers unless it reports the user&#x27;s age.
    • drnick11 hour ago
      How? Linux developers don&#x27;t live in Illinois or even in the USA for the most part.
      • charcircuit47 minutes ago
        They sell the OS to Illinois residents.
        • NordStreamYacht41 minutes ago
          I have paid for Redhat just once. Since then ubuntu FTW
          • charcircuit33 minutes ago
            It&#x27;s possible for Ubuntu too. Dell sells Ubuntu laptops to Illinois.
            • consp12 minutes ago
              &quot;this option is not available in the state of Illinois&quot;<p>Seems easy enough to implement before 2028 and only serve laptops without OS.
  • user0000526 minutes ago
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    • wincy52 minutes ago
      I’m not looking forward to updating my array of 3D printer controllers with Raspbian in them and having them suddenly ask me for some sort of age attestation. Why would I be glad about this? My kids just aren’t allowed to use social media and have super locked down devices, so even the alleged advantage doesn’t help me.