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  • chvid14 minutes ago
    I saw on Twitter that TSMC has made 1B worth of chips for Apple that they cannot package because of missing memory.<p>(PS: It is time to let ASML sell to CXMT.)
  • Schlagbohrer4 minutes ago
    Amazon has implemented a password system for RAM delivery. You&#x27;re supposed to give a password to the deliverer before taking delivery of the RAM, and you&#x27;re not supposed to send the password over the phone at all (although the Amazon delivery guy still called me and asked for it over the phone).
  • amelius22 minutes ago
    How am I going to buy a computer that connects to AI datacenters now?
  • guessmyname1 hour ago
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    • zarzavat17 minutes ago
      Note to the momentarily shocked: this is in Canadian dollars.
  • tosti59 minutes ago
    All those devs who were saying &quot;ram is cheap&quot; BTFO.
    • tveita1 minute ago
      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dam.stanford.edu&#x2F;memory-prices.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dam.stanford.edu&#x2F;memory-prices.html</a><p>Pretty sure those devs were saying the same thing way before 2017 as well, which seems to be ~ the last time RAM was this expensive.<p>Now RAM in the <i>cloud</i>, now you&#x27;re really paying the Java premium.
    • jbverschoor19 minutes ago
      Thanks to AI, we can now one-shot convert electron to native apps ;-)
    • amelius45 minutes ago
      Bad times for the two-space copying garbage collectors.
      • pjc5034 minutes ago
        Are there any of those left? The popular VMs for Java, Javascript and dotnet are all very mature heavily tuned designs.
    • rock_artist51 minutes ago
      That&#x27;s tech... Moore Law was steadily going until raw CPU got stuck for a few years, switching from single core to multicore then heterogeneous cpus, all those requiring to rewrite software in a scalable manner and then consider newer schedulers switching between performance&#x2F;efficiency cores and changing CPU freqs.<p>Also, you have Meta and Google investing in simplified performant versions of their stack for developing countries which is similar.<p>What&#x27;s funny though, I see people that sometimes says it&#x27;s cheaper to build the app they need in a single prompt than to search for it.
      • eru3 minutes ago
        You know that Moore&#x27;s law is about transistor count? What worked really well for CPU in eg the 1990s was Dennard scaling. That drove the Hz higher. And Dennard scaling is what stopped working.<p>Moore&#x27;s law is alive and well.
  • WithinReason53 minutes ago
    This hopefully helps mitigate the risk of putting more production capacity in place, which the Big 3 were not willing to do so far.
    • pjc5030 minutes ago
      At this size, I think we have to start worrying about a 2008-type default risk. AI companies will have <i>ordered</i> all the RAM and paid some kind of deposit for that, but actually taking delivery and paying for it is still in the future and the sums of capital involved are extremely large.
      • eru1 minute ago
        What kind of default risk?<p>What we got in 2008 was central banks (eg Fed and ECB) willfully collapsing nominal GDP in their economies. Have a look at the dot-com bust or Black Monday for comparison.
      • inigyou17 minutes ago
        That&#x27;s the reason RAM companies aren&#x27;t expanding. Worst case, they can sell their normal production to gamers.
      • nixon_why6928 minutes ago
        Also there is a ton of debt flying around, its not just equities hurting VC funds, real banks are facing risks now.
  • gaigalas3 minutes ago
    The fact that consumer-level DDR4 is getting more expensive makes absolutely no market sense to me.
  • PeterStuer1 hour ago
    Isn&#x27;t scalping illegal in some countries?
    • inigyou58 minutes ago
      Buying and selling at market price is rarely illegal. I think in the USSR it might be?
      • chupasaurus23 minutes ago
        It was legal in USSR for USSR to scalp though, depends on point of view.
    • actionfromafar1 hour ago
      Isn&#x27;t scalping a term used for tickets? Also, these companies supposedly intend to actually use the RAM they ordered, not reselling at some inflated price.<p>It&#x27;s all fair game IMHO, except the elephant in the room which is that the AI company bubble might pop.
      • GoblinSlayer16 minutes ago
        Then we&#x27;ll have a lot of cheap RAM.
      • AussieWog9348 minutes ago
        I don&#x27;t see the AI bubble popping any time soon (as in, not in terms of physical datacenter buildout - stock prices could fall). Even if progress hits a brick wall, we still have multiple years of just expanding out the models we have to more people in more industries.
  • AmbroseBierce8 minutes ago
    Turns out AI-maxxing implicates citizens-minning.
  • xg154 minutes ago
    How to fight the war on general computation:<p>Method 1: Spend decades pushing elaborate technical standards for locking down bootloaders, try to convince society why we need device attestation and hardware-bound keys, gradually establish devices without root access as the norm, get into constant skirmishes with free software and privacy advocates, get drawn into unpleasant political quagmires, etc etc<p>Method 2: Just buy up all the RAM...