4 comments

  • amelius1 hour ago
    &gt; First-contact consent: an unknown sender doesn&#x27;t get into the mailbox; they land in a &quot;requests&quot; box with their first message visible (like Signal&#x27;s message requests). You accept, and the thread opens forever. A stranger can knock on your door, which is the essential property of mail, but they can&#x27;t fill up your living room.<p>I like this.<p>Question: can this e-mail specification&#x2F;implementation also replace direct-messaging protocols (like WhatsApp)?
    • MrGilbert13 minutes ago
      &gt; I like this.<p>Honestly, I&#x27;d want this as a default. I wonder if a mailserver can be configure like this. Doesn&#x27;t sound too hard, does it?
    • fny1 hour ago
      Is there any reason they shouldn&#x27;t be the same?
    • xd19361 hour ago
      This is the way hey.com operates. It&#x27;s nice.
  • 8organicbits48 minutes ago
    I think the network effects make email hard to replace, virtually everyone online has an email address. If this could include a migration path, with backwards compatibility with SMTP, I think it would have a better shot of getting adoption.<p>Modern email already depends on HTTP, with protocols like MTA-STS (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rfc-editor.org&#x2F;info&#x2F;rfc8461&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rfc-editor.org&#x2F;info&#x2F;rfc8461&#x2F;</a>) using HTTPS&#x2F;TLS to improve transit encryption, or Web Key Directory (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;datatracker.ietf.org&#x2F;doc&#x2F;draft-koch-openpgp-webkey-service&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;datatracker.ietf.org&#x2F;doc&#x2F;draft-koch-openpgp-webkey-s...</a>) which uses HTTP for key distribution. Personally I think these incremental improvements of SMTP are more promising than replacements, but we deserve better email however we can build it.
  • wuschel42 minutes ago
    &gt; Optional postage for strangers: the server can answer a first contact with a 402. Configurable per mailbox; the cost of cold spamming stops being zero.<p>Interesting take re putting a cost on spam. Perhaps another take would be functionally implementing introductions.<p>&gt; First-contact consent: an unknown sender doesn&#x27;t get into the mailbox; they land in a &quot;requests&quot; box with their first message visible (like Signal&#x27;s message requests). You accept, and the thread opens forever. A stranger can knock on your door, which is the essential property of mail, but they can&#x27;t fill up your living room.<p>Unfortunately, this will only move the problem, and only reduce it in the case when all outside communication is ignored.
  • syhol1 hour ago
    I&#x27;m very excited by this idea. I feel like email&#x2F;chat is ripe for reinvention.<p>I don&#x27;t agree with &quot;Domain control as a fallback&quot;, as the author said &quot;a domain is not owned, it is rented&quot; and I want to normalise the idea that if you lose your private key, you need to start again. I hate that we keep giving so much authority to domains, it&#x27;s such a big weakness. The author even left the key rotation chain out of the initial implementation.<p>I still think root&#x2F;signer keys or sigchains are decent options.