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  • croemer18 minutes ago
    Since the blog post doesn&#x27;t actually include the change to the TOS and only links to it at the very end, here it is:<p>&gt; 7. You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by &quot;generative AI&quot;-tools (including services such as <i>Claude</i>, <i>OpenAI Codex</i>). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (1) 3) and furthermore have little safeguards to ensure that they do not include harmful code (c.f. § 2 (1) 5).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;Codeberg&#x2F;org&#x2F;commit&#x2F;96fac426a32d1ba91ff879366d59bf1af54080c2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codeberg.org&#x2F;Codeberg&#x2F;org&#x2F;commit&#x2F;96fac426a32d1ba91ff...</a>
  • TheChaplain2 hours ago
    I don&#x27;t really see a problem with this decision (or the one regarding crypto), they were voted on by the active members of Codeberg, simply a democratic outcome.
    • abc123abc1235 minutes ago
      Ridiculous. Any liability is solved through the terms and conditions, where the uploader is held responsible. The uploader solves this, by holding the AI company responsible.<p>I couldn&#x27;t care less about if AI was used to develop software, if it does what it is supposed to do, and if it is secure. Bad software can be produced with or without AI, so ultimately it is up to _you_ to vet the software you use if you don&#x27;t pay anything for it.
    • farfatched1 hour ago
      +1. Membership is open. The vote was given to members.<p>This is all reasonable.<p>I will have to move my projects off Codeberg, but that&#x27;s okay. We have incompatible views. No grudges.
    • zajio1am41 minutes ago
      The fact that decision was democratic is independent from whether it is good and reasonable.<p>Anti-homosexuality laws were also voted on democratically.
      • omnimus6 minutes ago
        It&#x27;s safe to say it&#x27;s reasonable to majority of codeberg members. It doesn&#x27;t really matter if it seems unreasonable from the outside.
    • youre-wrong31 hour ago
      lol closed door voting is not democratic.
      • SiempreViernes1 hour ago
        Not being a US citizen* means I cannot vote in US elections, thus it is a closed door vote by your reckoning and so the US is not democratic. Did I get that right?<p>*This is shorthand for me not being associated with the US in any way, but you are of course free to reply with all the edge cases that makes the point impossible to state briefly.
        • flir48 minutes ago
          Always attack the analogy, never the argument.<p>I see you&#x27;ve played &quot;internet&quot; before...
          • stuartjohnson1241 minutes ago
            He did attack the argument - he argued reductio ad absurdum that classifying &quot;democratic&quot; as &quot;open to everyone&quot; wouldn&#x27;t be a sensible definition, because the argument would set such a high bar for democracy that no state is democratic.<p>The irony of this comment is that leaning back and snarkily accusing someone of &quot;playing internet&quot; is precisely the kind of disengagement you&#x27;re complaining about.
            • flir7 minutes ago
              I was applauding SiempreViernes. He found an elegant way to call someone out for doing that, before they did it, because he&#x27;s played internet before and knew what the next move was.<p>screwed words I obviously up did.
      • falsemyrmidon1 hour ago
        Who do you think should be voting if not their active users?
      • not-kinsale-joe1 hour ago
        It is still democratic, what would be you preferred way to do it?
      • dijksterhuis1 hour ago
        “closed door” is a bit disingenuous considering any private individual codeberg user can apply to become an active voting member <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;join.codeberg.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;join.codeberg.org&#x2F;</a>
  • endre49 minutes ago
    thanks for addressing the source of the problems as `LLMs` and not AI in general.
  • wongarsu1 hour ago
    I wonder how this turns out longer-term. Obviously more and more software development is moving to LLMs. But depending on how principled codeberg ends up about enforcing this, a project being on codeberg might end up as a strong signal that the project is not ai-slop (either made by hand, or at least by humans who care about the project)
    • inigyou10 minutes ago
      I think that&#x27;s what Codeberg wants. It wants to be the hub of good software, not the dumping ground for random code files that GitHub turned into.
  • nylonstrung1 hour ago
    &gt; To us, it seems ridiculous to see projects with a single developer and virtually no users consuming as much or even more resources than some of the largest community projects on Codeberg, which operate frugal with CI&#x2F;CD and storage resources. We do not believe it is reasonable for Codeberg to invest our precious donation money into hosting of large ghost projects.<p>This seems fully orthogonal to whether LLMs are used or not
  • BrenBarn1 hour ago
    Kudos to them and others who take a principled stance against LLM crapola.
  • Daffrin50 minutes ago
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  • redsocksfan451 hour ago
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  • jaredcwhite5 hours ago
    Huzzah! This is excellent news. Safe spaces and healthy communities are borne from enforcing strict moderation to keep the bad actors out. This is an important step forward for the platform.
    • bcye4 hours ago
      The article literally says they intend to selectively enforce this rule and not be strict with it?
  • superdisk1 hour ago
    &gt; Civic infrastructure, its users, and the environment suffer<p>Larp detected. Also, is GitHub really so bad? I don&#x27;t use any of the fancy features, I just push and pull code from it and it&#x27;s basically never down for that. And if Github ultimately does die I can just point my repos at a new server and hit `git push`.