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  • pshirshov11 minutes ago
    Blah-blah-singularity, so let's cripple the models so much they refuse to talk about React, because who knows if you are not cooking chemical weapons or meth in your browser's DOM, right?
  • noelwelsh40 minutes ago
    The premise is &quot;Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the brain has, is probably only a few short years away&quot;.<p>If this is true, establishing an institution to ensure things like &quot;publishing model cards with technical details, maintaining strong internal cybersecurity, vetting key personnel, and providing sufficient resourcing for safety and security research&quot; is really mostly irrelevant.<p>TFA does talk about what really needs to be done, but punts this into future work: &quot;Even if we solve these hard technical challenges, there will be further complex economic and philosophical questions to tackle: what sorts of new economic models will be needed to help everyone thrive in a post-scarcity world? What values do we want to live by, what will meaning and purpose be, and how might even the human condition itself change? There&#x27;s also a need to consider the rights that this new intelligence should have.
    • f6v15 minutes ago
      &gt; what sorts of new economic models will be needed to help everyone thrive in a post-scarcity world<p>What sort of new economic models did we come up with to help everyone thrive in a post-X world? Like, food production is really a solved technical problem. We can feed anyone on the planet if we wanted to. Another example: we could put everyone who&#x27;s homeless into some sort of a house. Have we done that yet?
      • Marha012 minutes ago
        Food production is indeed a solved problem in most countries (we are almost post-scarcity when it comes to food), which is why obesity is a much bigger issue than hunger today. Hunger is present pretty much only in conflict zones. I fully expect such issues in conflict zones, even in AI post-scarcity world.<p>Housing is definitely not post-scarcity today, building a house is still very expensive, not to mention the limited availability of land zoned for housing.
    • andy_ppp18 minutes ago
      The A(G)I can tell us if and how it needs to be regulated :-&#x2F;
    • whimsicalism26 minutes ago
      The fundamental issue is that if we really get something like this, scarcity will still exist. There will still be scarce things people want.<p>But the motivating justificatory structure for any inequality in allocation will have completely evaporated.
  • gruez37 minutes ago
    The proposal:<p>&gt;The American government, he says, should develop a system for testing the safety of new AI models before they are released. “It’s important that it’s not just an industry body,” he adds. But a regular government agency wouldn’t do either. “It would not be able to move fast enough, or have the right resources.” Instead, Sir Demis suggests taking inspiration from FINRA, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority, a private agency in America that regulates brokers and stock markets.
  • thegrim3324 minutes ago
    Spoiler: The plan is .. add massive regulation, but only to the US, don&#x27;t affect other countries developing it in any way other than &quot;setting a good standard that&#x27;ll hopefully influence them&quot;. Seems like an airtight plan.
  • geremiiah27 minutes ago
    All the frontier labs are lobbying hard to lock down the AI market, because they see that their position at the top is temporary and that there&#x27;s no secret sauce.
    • hsaliak12 minutes ago
      no, this post was written by Demis from Deepmind.
      • flyinglizard8 minutes ago
        Google’s Deepmind.
        • hsaliak7 minutes ago
          so the joke was the implication that they are not frontier.
  • chrsw26 minutes ago
    For better or worse, humans (or any animal) are a lot better at reacting than planning. I&#x27;m sure this technology will play out differently than any one of us, or any collection of us, can imagine. The possibility space is enormous.
  • khurs29 minutes ago
    &gt;This is a pivotal moment in human history. Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the brain has, is probably only a few short years away.<p>There is a heatwave in London, perhaps Demis needs to stay out of the sun and drink more water.<p>Or perhaps he is seeking more funding&#x2F;a fight to maintain his divisions AGI research budget.
    • password5432120 minutes ago
      Show me the incentive and I’ll show you the outcome.
    • gizajob20 minutes ago
      Perhaps he’s a lot smarter than you.
      • khurs16 minutes ago
        On the STEM side, yes no doubt he is a lot smarter than me.<p>But as per the documentary of his life, he is wholly focused on AGI and will remain unfulfilled if he, or indeed anyone else, doesn&#x27;t achieve it within his lifetime.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Thinking_Game" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Thinking_Game</a>
  • HarHarVeryFunny6 minutes ago
    Not exactly a &quot;plan&quot; - he&#x27;s just saying we should have a standards body that assesses models for safety.<p>At this point I&#x27;d say the societal risk of AI isn&#x27;t models gone wild, or used by the bad guys. Regulation will take care of itself, and it seems the AI companies will not only welcome it, but lobby for it to shift responsibility to the government.<p>The real risk of AI is societal disruption due to job displacement, and maybe other structural changes, and this is far harder to solve, and likely will not be solved, or even seriously addressed, until&#x2F;unless politicians feel like their own jobs and well-being depends on them addressing it.
  • sluongng7 minutes ago
    how would this help smaller labs? would it put more burdens on them when trying to compete with trillion-dollar companies or would it help?
  • watwut20 minutes ago
    These people who read too many scifi books and confused them with reality are royally annoying.<p>There is real and potential harm from AI, but the more someone talks&#x2F;write abut AI safety, the less they care about actual harm to real people, economy and what not.
    • pingou6 minutes ago
      If in 2020 I had sent you a book about the LLM achievements of 2026, you would probably have thought it was a science fiction book with no relation to reality, wouldn&#x27;t you?
  • tangenter19 minutes ago
    Sigh, another person talking their book while also talking their life’s work. One is bad, but the two together are unhinged.<p>I’m going to have to flag this because it is obnoxious and absurd.
  • cmrdporcupine1 minute ago
    All that would happen from what he&#x27;s proposing is such a watchdog would just be an explicit formal declaration of the US&#x27;s national interests as being somehow the most legitimate, which in the context of current international relations is basically putting up a sign saying: &quot;reject this!&quot;<p>I find it mind boggling that someone could be this tone-deaf to the current situation. No &quot;ally&quot; of the US is going to (willingly) agree to this governance structure given the current US administration&#x27;s &quot;might makes right&quot; proclamations and threats on sovereignty of its continental neighbours.<p>And non-allies would just ignore.<p>Apart from its completely delusional formulation, what is most concerning about this blog post is that it indicates that all 3 major US labs have formally submitted to boot-licking Trump&#x2F;Bessent&#x2F;Lutnick. I had I guess vainly held out hope that Google might be more reticent to do so.
  • dang48 minutes ago
    (I took the title from the Economist interview since &quot;A Framework for Frontier AI and the Dawning of a New Age&quot; sounds like a press release - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;sort=byDate&amp;type=comment&amp;query=corporate%20press%20release%20by:dang" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=true&amp;sor...</a>)