7 comments

  • nottorp3 minutes ago
    Of course, the consequence is you end up communicating for work on something like Teams instead of an usable chat app.
  • weinzierl10 minutes ago
    <i>&quot;ban personal messaging apps at work&quot;</i><p>What does that even mean? I doubt you can forbid the usage of personal messaging apps except in very exceptional cases (like a court room).<p>On the other hand: Using personal messaging apps for work related information is a no-go anyway because of confidentiality agreements basically everyone signs.
    • rock_artist3 minutes ago
      I also didn&#x27;t fully understand if the context is:<p>- Ban ANY use of your personal chats &#x2F; device at work (eg. your wife texts you to bring milk on the way home)<p>- Ban WORK communication (eg. My colleague don&#x27;t understand recent commit I&#x27;ve made)<p>So the web really isn&#x27;t explaining how things enforced or what is being done. I do know of some industries where you put your personal phone when entering specific locations or having stickers on cameras) but here I didn&#x27;t fully understood the scope.
  • benny_s31 minutes ago
    At least for the financial institutions on this list, I can say they have no other choice. Regulation forces them to log everything to avoid insider trading, etc. Any communication outside of their internal systems can&#x27;t be logged and is therefore a compliance risk.
    • blitzar7 minutes ago
      Been a sackable offence for over a decade in finance, I can not fathom why other sectors have been so slow to enforce some basic standards.<p>Recording every call, message (and in my office - thing you said at your desk) is mostly used for conflict resolution - when counterparties disagree you go to the tapes and see what was said. From there my word is my bond, it is done.
    • sigmoid1017 minutes ago
      GDPR guarantees a right to privacy even on work devices. I think you need to filter out personal messages if compliance requires logging.
      • JoeBOFH10 minutes ago
        As much as I prefer the European way of some items. I think the American way of treating the work computer as a company asset and just locking it down to an insane degree makes way more sense. Especially for areas like finance.
  • Yokohiii34 minutes ago
    I don&#x27;t understand why they put this up like it&#x27;s working in their favor. Their website doesn&#x27;t explain anything extraordinary that makes them different from the average chat app, except that it is europe based.
    • williamdclt4 minutes ago
      I&#x27;m not reading anything in this article that seems to pretend like it&#x27;s working in their favour?<p>It&#x27;s just an article from a company about their industry, companies do that all the time for brand recognition, building trust (showing expertise in their domain), and educating potential customers about why they might need this sort of product (lead generation).
    • inigyou27 minutes ago
      What would possibly differentiate a chat app?
      • Almondsetat24 minutes ago
        E2EE? F&#x2F;OSS? P2P?
        • inigyou8 minutes ago
          In reality, they don&#x27;t, not really. The only important differentiator is whether your friends use it and whether you have to self-host a server to use it (which has a large impact upon point 1).
  • retired41 minutes ago
    Meanwhile in Spain I use WhatsApp to contact the municipality, the GP uses it to send my blood results and package delivery drivers ask me to share my location. I hate it.
    • mschild36 minutes ago
      Why not delete it? I assume that if you don&#x27;t have it, they offer some other form of communication with you?
      • reedciccio28 minutes ago
        Yes, they do but they require walking to their office and deal with paper or call them during ever shrinking office hours. Take your poison.
        • jagged-chisel23 minutes ago
          Pick your poison.<p>“Take” sounds too threatening.
      • amelius29 minutes ago
        Very funny.
  • stack52917 minutes ago
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  • spwa41 hour ago
    TLDR: yes, governments in favor of Chat Control legislation want to make <i>absolutely</i> sure it doesn&#x27;t apply to them.
    • inigyou26 minutes ago
      Chat Control 1 or 2?