13 comments

  • fma1 hour ago
    &gt;children have quickly found workarounds for such measures, such as asking friends to message them links, which can bypass restrictions when opened<p>I was very surprised of this by my own kids find workarounds like l33t hackers. Apple&#x27;s restrictions are a joke. The app store is full of things they can mess with. My daughter mentioned some way to get around screen time.<p>I&#x27;ve ended up just taking the iPads away.
    • Grombobulous40 minutes ago
      When I was a kid my parents wouldn’t give me a cellphone. I wanted to call my girlfriend. Well, really, my girlfriend wanted me to call her. A lot.<p>They didn’t give me one.<p>I ended up finding a way to get my own through a more apathetic adult who I could pay cash to cover my bill (only an extra $10&#x2F;month on a family plan).<p>I certainly am not telling you to just cave in, but perhaps this story can be a reminder that technology you control is potentially better than technology you don’t.
      • bawolff30 minutes ago
        What age groups are we talking here, because if we&#x27;re talking about a 7 year old, giving them unfettered screen time is probably bad parenting. However if we are talking about someone old enough to have gf&#x2F;bf its probably also bad parenting to not let them develop their own self control around technology. They have to be an adult eventually.
        • Grombobulous5 minutes ago
          I was a teenager, if that wasn’t clear. But I was more of the mindset of lending a story, I can’t say whether or not it’s relevant to the parent commenter’s scenario.
        • szundi26 minutes ago
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    • wrs20 minutes ago
      When my friend&#x27;s kids were totally obsessed with League of Legends, I offered to set up a home firewall with increasingly difficult workarounds, so by the time they graduated high school they&#x27;d at least have a cybersecurity certificate and possibly a Ph.D in networking.
      • jaggederest2 minutes ago
        Adversarially train the children, rlai works on human brains too?
    • flippyhead1 hour ago
      I found it such a hassle to keep locked down I gave up. Like, he&#x27;d be so aware that he&#x27;d find ways to watch me enter the PIN code when adjusting the settings. I&#x27;d have to be ever-vigilant and I got tired of it.
      • qup59 minutes ago
        Try discipline
        • nielsbot25 minutes ago
          curious kind of discipline you have in mind.
          • kelnos10 minutes ago
            Time-honored punishment: revoke various privileges for periods of time until they get it.<p>In this case, seems pretty topical to just take the phone away entirely for a few days.
        • mplewis42 minutes ago
          No one asked.
    • adamwk20 minutes ago
      We were once 1337 hackers too
    • basisword47 minutes ago
      It seems like Apple put a big focus on &#x27;kids mode&#x27; things this WWDC. To the point they dedicated a major section of the keynote to it. Hopefully a part of that will be focussed on the workarounds.
  • Brajeshwar1 day ago
    Archived <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;LV6Cw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;LV6Cw</a><p>Long back Xiaomi Phones used to have soemthing like this. That one feature was how I migrated my in-laws to Smartphones from their Nokias.<p>The key content from the article;<p>Here&#x27;s how you set it up: Head into Settings, tap Accessibility, scroll down to the General section at the very bottom, and tap Assistive Access. Now, tap Set Up Assistive Access, then Continue. It will then ask you to select your preferred appearance: rows or a grid. I suggest choosing a grid. This is how you get those super-large tiles. Now the OS will ask you to select allowed apps—tap the green plus icon next to the apps you want to allow.
  • bawolff34 minutes ago
    &gt; My son only gets Calls, Messages, Maps, Camera (so we can video call, but I&#x27;ve ruthlessly turned off selfies), Photos, and Music. Nothing else.<p>I get that the internet is an addictive scary place with lots of content potentially dangerous to a young person.<p>But why would you care if your child took a selfie? That seems pretty draconian.
    • isomorphic18 minutes ago
      I&#x27;m speculating that it&#x27;s not the selfie; it&#x27;s where that selfie ends up (or with whom).
      • kelnos8 minutes ago
        OP apparently still hasn&#x27;t learned that the kids today are taking selfies &quot;blind&quot; using the rear camera.
  • Cider99861 hour ago
    Mobile Device Management (MDM) is the only effective way to restrict idevices.<p>All you need is a macbook and Apple Configurator.<p>You can remove safari, blacklist or whitelist websites, block installing apps, block deleting apps. It&#x27;s really customizable.
    • sampton26 minutes ago
      MDM is just parental control for adults.
    • qup59 minutes ago
      What does the acronym stand for
  • turkeyboi36 minutes ago
    Assistive access is the feature being referred to by tfa
  • pugworthy51 minutes ago
    This might be just the thing for my elderly mother. She&#x27;s used an iPhone for many many years, but struggles lately with motor dexterity, vision, and a bit of cognitive challenge making phone usage difficult. Lots of things I&#x27;d like to just hide she doesn&#x27;t need to get to (like Settings).
    • calgoo6 minutes ago
      In the exact same boat with my mother in law at the moment. I was thinking of getting her one of those android for elderly phones but wanted to see if I could do something with her existing iphone first. At this point, anything that is recognizable is a plus so sticking with the iPhone will help there.
  • m4631 hour ago
    This seems like a much more comprehensive solution than screen time
  • bitwize26 minutes ago
    It&#x27;s like At Ease for mobile. Neat!
  • citizenpaul55 minutes ago
    &gt;Yes, it&#x27;s odd that Apple doesn&#x27;t train all its store staff on this laudable feature, but it&#x27;s baffling that it doesn&#x27;t shout about how good Assistive Access is for making a kid&#x27;s dumb phone.<p>My guess is that its a bad look for PR to essentially say that a feature designed for disability assistance = children.
  • morninglight30 minutes ago
    While living in Japan, our kid used a cellphone with 3 buttons.<p>1. Call mom, 2. Call dad. 3. Call Auntie.<p>These kid&#x27;s phones were very common, inexpensive and worked great.
  • mvdwoord1 hour ago
    &quot;You must disable SIM PIN to enable Assistive Access...&quot;
    • 050 minutes ago
      Also refuses to activate with alphanumeric passcode enabled..
  • 5020835 minutes ago
    His kid doesn&#x27;t need a phone and doesn&#x27;t need to be tracked to walk to school. Get over it.
    • abeyer8 minutes ago
      Yup, came to say this.<p>Kids have learned to walk places on their own without maps or satnav or tracking for hundreds of thousands of years. I believe everyone would benefit from that continuing. We don&#x27;t teach kids that the only way to do arithmetic is with a calculator... they learn first, then get a tool that can support what they already know. Why do we think we should do it differently here, and train this learned helplessness without a phone glued to your hand. I suspect a lot of this is projection of the parents&#x27; own discomfort with being away from their phone.
  • xbryanx48 minutes ago
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