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  • sapphicsnail51 minutes ago
    <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;dFnBu" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;dFnBu</a>
  • mcintyre199422 minutes ago
    &gt; We asked it [GPT-5.5] to assess whether each leader had made a falsifiable claim about the future as part of its main thesis. About 1,400 did. We then extracted those predictions, and asked the AI to mark out of ten both how contrarian the leader’s outlook was at the time and how accurate the prediction turned out to be. We ran those queries several times and took an average.<p>I understand why it wouldn’t be feasible for a human to do this, but I’m quite sceptical about an AI assessing how accurate predictions turned out to be&#x2F;how contrarian they were at the time. It seems like that would depend a lot on what sources it chooses, be liable to hallucination or getting poisoned by bad sources, etc. They don’t mention whether they used independent queries for each prediction either, or whether it was doing multiple sequentially.<p>Given that LLMs can’t really distinguish prompt from instructions etc, I’m sceptical that they can reason particularly well about things like how contrarian a view was at a particular point in time.
    • platelminto14 minutes ago
      I thought the same while reading this - I can easily imagine the AI using hindsight to affect &quot;how contrarian the leader&#x27;s outlook was at the time&quot;, in a way that&#x27;s similar to how we often do the same.<p>Would be interesting to do a similar analysis but maybe pushing the AI to search the web for articles&#x2F;other reporting written during that time, to at least correct for that bias a little bit.
    • memoriyato37 minutes ago
      you can still judge if it was correct or not, irrespective of contrarianness, still a good signal to measure
  • t4356219 minutes ago
    One should do this analysis for various politicians, political parties, TV and news media and so on.<p>How do we know how good or bad the Economist is if we have no other source to compare against? Presumably it isn&#x27;t trivial to predict the outcome of millions of people&#x27;s reactions to all the complicated things that are happening to them.
    • memoriyato35 minutes ago
      psychohistory, some are already doing it today (LLMs simulating various people with various beliefs interacting)
  • WithinReason7 minutes ago
    They should have checked if they are more accurate than the consensus, the data doesn&#x27;t show this.
  • memoriyato311 minutes ago
    to quote Taleb: those who can, do (trade). those who can&#x27;t, write about it (financial press)
  • testdelacc126 minutes ago
    I don’t see any other publication doing this kind of analysis of themselves, pointing out the mistakes they’ve made in the past.<p>Even in this article they mention “The Economist was convinced by the false claim that Saddam Hussein was hiding weapons of mass destruction”, something they remind the reader of each time the Iraq War is discussed. I remember an article from 2017 that said the Economist got it wrong, while a less honest publication wouldn’t have.<p>It’s more remarkable considering that the economist’s articles and opinions are published without the authors details. So when an article gets it wrong, it reflects poorly on the economist as a whole. They can’t simply blame the previous guy, it’s their fault.<p>They’ll be talking about how they got the Iraq War wrong as long as someone mentions it even in passing 50 years from now. That’s candour I appreciate.
    • hliyan24 minutes ago
      This is a very charitable reading of why The Economist does not have bylines.
      • SpecialistK18 minutes ago
        It is, and I&#x27;m aware of the less charitable (perhaps more likely) readings. But much of the time it isn&#x27;t difficult to know who to attribute because they are explicitly featured in podcasts about the respective article.
  • kybernetikos1 hour ago
    That&#x27;s a disappointing chart from the economist. When you have a lot of points, you can&#x27;t show them as dots that occlude other dots, or the reader can&#x27;t get much more of a sense than &#x27;none &#x2F; some &#x2F; lots&#x27;. What you need to do is bucket by region and do a background heatmap with small dots added, or use a different level of opacity on the dots.
    • IshKebab18 minutes ago
      There aren&#x27;t <i>that</i> many points. It looks fine to me. (But I agree that is a common mistake.)
  • mrkeen1 hour ago
    The internet of 2026.<p>Betteridge&#x27;s law wrapping a paywall wrapping an AI piece masquerading as domain-specific analysis.
  • epolanski36 minutes ago
    I really like the economist, they are quite centric in their views but don&#x27;t hide a certain bias for strong representative democracies, deregulation, globalism and open (publicly traded) markets.<p>Their writing style is probably the cleanest in the industry and they always point out potential conflict of interest even though I&#x27;ve never seen the write anything really positive about the companies Exor controls (Stellantis, Philips, etc).
    • hliyan26 minutes ago
      The Economist Group is largely owned by the Agnelli family (&quot;Italy&#x27;s Kennedys&quot;), Canadian billionaire Stephen Smith, the Rothschilds and others, which is likely a significant factor in those biases.
      • amarcheschi21 minutes ago
        I don&#x27;t know why this is downvoted, in italy agnelli owned via Gedi group various newspapers and as you can imagine it&#x27;s not ideal - although since this march group Gedi changed owner
    • pydry20 minutes ago
      If you find a topic where reality lies outside of the overton window for western elites <i>at the time</i> theyll reliably get it wrong.<p>There are a number of examples of this (e.g. the Afghanistan and Iraq wars).<p>They usually use a lot of hedging language to cover their behinds when they make predictions, though, so their predictions are usually more nudges and winks than they are commitments.
  • lowbloodsugar58 minutes ago
    It’s always wrong when it really matters.
  • thescriptkiddie49 minutes ago
    rare example of a question in the headline where the answer is yes
    • jimnotgym24 minutes ago
      Isn&#x27;t that the nature of futurology. You are always wrong in some way. That doesn&#x27;t necessarily make it useless
      • hgomersall15 minutes ago
        Given that many economic predictions are really about pushing an agenda, they are not at all useless, or at least, would be better measured against that criteria. I suspect the reason we still have neoliberal economics is precisely because despite its manifest failures of prediction, it still pushes the right agenda to be supported.
  • atoav39 minutes ago
    &quot;We investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong&quot;