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  • Taronar49 minutes ago
    Things like this mainly occur in markets with little competition, killing of small business causes issues like this. Much of our grievances are caused by our high level of market concentration.
    • abeppu36 minutes ago
      And notably, we used to have a somewhat progressive corporate income tax which, at least on paper, provided a quantitative disincentive against too much consolidation. Sometimes the merger of A and B would pay a higher rate than A and B separately. And we gave that mechanism up.
    • plagiarist21 minutes ago
      An assumption required to make capitalism work efficiently is that customers have meaningful choices. Trustbusting is one of the important roles of the government, if it were functional.
  • declan_roberts24 minutes ago
    We really need to bring back corporal punishment, both for petty crimes and white collar crimes. The prison sentences don&#x27;t make sense for the petty crimes, and the fines don&#x27;t make sense for the white collar crimes.<p>We need legalize public caning and the stocks.
    • Henchman219 minutes ago
      Along with this we need the revocation of corporate charters and the liquidation of all assets belonging to the owners of any corp that is dissolved in this manner. The penalty for fucking over the public in general should be a lifetime of poverty.
      • devilbunny7 minutes ago
        The owners of corporations are mostly pension funds and the like.
  • Varelion11 minutes ago
    The United Monopolies of America
  • croes5 minutes ago
    Business as usual.<p>BP, Shell etc. make more profit from ignoring safety and environmental standards than they have to pay in fines for oil spills.<p>Same is true for FB &amp; Co.<p>How about the possibility of a death penalty for companies like for people because companies are people, aren’t they?
  • xgulfie11 minutes ago
    Same thing keeps happening with DRAM, bread, electricity...
  • toomuchtodo2 hours ago
    Related:<p><i>Egg Libor Was Also Manipulated</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48756256">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48756256</a> - July 2026<p><i>Justice Department Requires Egg Producers to End Coordinated Benchmark Manipulation that Artificially Inflated Prices Across the Country</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48734081">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48734081</a> - July 2026
  • josefritzishere33 minutes ago
    Crime is legal now if you can get rich fast enough.
  • mannanj10 minutes ago
    So isn&#x27;t this how all major US capitalist companies function now? They look at unethical behavior and fines as a cost-benefits equation. Hardly new that when people make lots of money from something, they pay off your leaders to let them off with a small fine.
  • cucumber373284221 minutes ago
    &gt; Basically, consolidation had created concentrated power, and the shock of &lt;whatever&gt; let them exploit it.<p>Once you see this pattern, you see it everywhere.<p>&gt;While most normal people at the time thought someone was likely scamming them, that is not the message you heard from the industry, elite media, or economists. Throughout the alleged conspiracy, industry executives and analysts were saying that there was nothing to see except a supply shock of a disease killing lots of hens<p>The idea that something more nefarious than the bird flue was going on was very unpopular on HN at the time
  • pstuart2 hours ago
    That&#x27;ll show em! (that they should continue with the price fixing).<p>I look forward to the day when we no longer have a pro-corruption government.
    • onetimeusename40 minutes ago
      Do you have any evidence the settlement terms are corrupt? There were 17 states involved. Many of those states have governors that are not in the same party as the president. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apnews.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;egg-prices-collusion-settlement-d32b05892541613df3f4e4932109ee0c" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apnews.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;egg-prices-collusion-settlement-d...</a>
      • TimorousBestie29 minutes ago
        It’s not only Republicans getting contributions from Big Egg.
        • throw109206 minutes ago
          xkcd (2130) continues to be unreasonably poignant, as usual.
    • cyanydeez2 hours ago
      win&#x2F;wind: get caught, pay minor tax; dont get caught, get to keep minor tax
    • toomuchtodo1 hour ago
      If you want more aggressive anti trust enforcement, voters must vote better, for candidates and administrations that will aggressively enforce.
    • readthenotes11 hour ago
      &quot;naked conspiracy to manipulate the price of eggs from 2022-2025. &quot;<p>Who was in charge during this time period?
      • jstanley56 minutes ago
        2 consecutive pro-corruption governments
      • mghackerlady41 minutes ago
        not the one in charge of punishing this behaviour
      • wat1000047 minutes ago
        Surely the relevant question is who was in charge when the punishment was decided, not who was in charge when the misbehavior occurred.
      • mrguyorama38 minutes ago
        People always overlook how crappy our courts are.<p>They have been absurdly pro corporate for decades. They will bend over backwards to accept an absurd legal arguments from corporate attorneys, yet they never seem to have that level of credulity for people like you and me.<p>That famous McDonalds hot coffee case, McDonalds had caused serious injuries to hundreds of people previously and demonstrated serious negligence and a willing disregard for the safety of their customers and the courts, and yet when the jury came back with a couple million dollars in punitive damages, the judge still massively reduced that penalty!<p>We have to push for courts that don&#x27;t treat corporations with white gloves.
        • saghm6 minutes ago
          &gt; That famous McDonalds hot coffee case, McDonalds had caused serious injuries to hundreds of people previously and demonstrated serious negligence and a willing disregard for the safety of their customers and the courts, and yet when the jury came back with a couple million dollars in punitive damages, the judge still massively reduced that penalty!<p>And then in the aftermath of that, the media turned the most well-known victim into a punchline and a oft-cited example of absurd litigation by people who don&#x27;t know any better.
  • MarkusQ43 minutes ago
    Reminds me of the Egg Greed Graph.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;HFa2bQlWcAARYNB.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pbs.twimg.com&#x2F;media&#x2F;HFa2bQlWcAARYNB.jpg</a><p>Why is it people have such a hard time understanding that this is what we want markets to do? If there is a scarcity of some resource, the prices rise and this motivates producers to produce more and consumers to consume less, until an equilibrium is found. On net, this means that we can have more of what we want for less effort over time. Yes, the people doing this profit from it. That&#x27;s why they do it.
    • miyoji31 minutes ago
      Collusion is not a market force and is actually highly illegal and corrupting of markets, so this doesn&#x27;t seem relevant at all.
    • Henchman2111 minutes ago
      Greed isn’t “forgotten” its reined in by regulation.
    • vikingerik39 minutes ago
      Consumers don&#x27;t want to understand it because they don&#x27;t want to consume less.
      • smokefoot29 minutes ago
        I mean no. The LIBOR analogy is appropriate. Large, long-term egg supply contracts are fixed to an index and that index was manipulated. That&#x27;s criminal conspiracy and price fixing, not just a liquid market.<p>That&#x27;s notably different from say the current scrum for HBM where the demand truly came as a surprise and scarce supply gets bid up.<p>Micron&#x27;s windfall is justified and natural as these things go. The egg windfall was manufactured and criminal.
        • treis3 minutes ago
          LIBOR didn&#x27;t triple the rate. I don&#x27;t doubt that they screwed around at the margins but the extreme volatility in egg prices were predominantly caused by the underlying economic factors.
    • SpicyLemonZest25 minutes ago
      As the article says, people have a hard time understanding it because it turned out not to be what&#x27;s happening. I was on the other side of the debate, I thought it was absurd, but it turns out egg company executives really were sending each other messages saying &quot;let&#x27;s manipulate the price upwards so that we can make more money&quot;.