Ship traces journey Spanish Armada sailors made in 1588

(irishtimes.com)

15 points by austinallegro3 days ago

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ilamont2 hours ago
If the names of the ships that sank there are known, along with the numbers of sailors who perished, does that mean there were some survivors? Or other ships witnessed the sinking but managed to make it home? That part of Ireland in 1588 was indeed very wild and at that time Gaelic speaking.<p>Although amongst the local clergy perhaps there were some people who could speak Spanish or Latin if any shipwrecked sailors made it ashore.
- torben-friis1 hour ago
  About 300 survivors of different fate, according to this Spanish source (you can probably ai translate, there is a survivors section): <a href="https://www.armadainvencible.org/desastre-la-playa-streedagh/#Los_supervivientes" rel="nofollow">https://www.armadainvencible.org/desastre-la-playa-streedagh...</a><p>The short of it is that only 5 can be said for certain to have returned, plus one person that stayed in Ireland under the service of Hugh O’Neill.<p>The idea seems to be Catholic Irish nobility "such as the O’Rourke or the Mc Clancy" may have helped them, while the English army searched for survivors and killed those who found.
dieselgate3 days ago
This is pretty cool. One of the parts I love the most of boats/sailing is how they're basically the culmination of thousands of years of human science, engineering and technology. I especially like how this is published in an Irish paper about the ship sailing along the coast there.<p>When I was in my late teens a Spanish cousin took me to the maritime/naval museum in Madrid and I didn't have much context for things at the time. Look forward to visiting again at some point.
- baw-bag1 hour ago
  I am finding an interest in this subject as well. Just wondered if you (or any reading) had any good book recommendations about the age of sail. I seen one of the Spanish first ship of the line's flags and the scale was incredible. Plenty of stuff going on in the UK as well, but I'd like to visit Netherlands and Spain's museums too. Hopefully we both make the trip some day to learn more.
everyone1 hour ago
There's a lot of Spanish DNA in the south of Ireland cus of this.
- MontgomeryPy1 hour ago
  Aka Black Irish: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish_(folklore)" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Irish_(folklore)</a>
  - cogogo1 hour ago
    That wikipedia article is pretty clear that it is a myth and there is no genetic evidence of shipwrecked Spanish sailors having children.
    - MontgomeryPy40 minutes ago
      Yes. There is an Iberian connection that explains Irish folks with dark features, but that would be from Neolithic farmers migrating there 5000 years earlier.