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  • aleph_minus_one2 hours ago
    &gt; The specific reason for the retractions was copyright violation, so there was nothing wrong with the actual papers from a scientific standpoint.<p>There is a reason why the German portmanteau word &quot;Zensurheberrecht&quot; (&quot;Zensur&quot;: censorship; &quot;Urheberrecht&quot;: the related concept to copyright in German law) exists.
    • adrian_b1 hour ago
      The so-called copyright violation was that Max Planck had published the same article in 2 journals, which was not unusual at that time, because different journals had different readerships, so publishing in more journals was necessary if you wanted to reach more people.<p>So supposedly he plagiarized himself.<p>The second retracted article was even less justifiable, because the modern editors or their automated system had believed that 2 articles were the same, but they were not, they only happened to have the same title.
      • Ovah2 minutes ago
        While commonly taught in academic settings, I disagree with the notion that it&#x27;s possible to self plagiarize. It&#x27;s your own words and not stealing from somebody else.
      • Vespasian21 minutes ago
        Also that can&#x27;t be the whole story because Planck died in 1947 and in Germany (then and now) Copyright ends 70 years after the death of the author.
    • aap_2 hours ago
      Never heard this, but very accurate. thanks :)
  • mellosouls2 hours ago
    Discussed a couple days ago:<p><i>Springer Nature has removed two studies by Max Planck (science.org) 389 points, 196 comments</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48686834">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48686834</a>
    • jrimbault2 hours ago
      I notice how the title by Ars Technica is much less baity than Nature: &quot;Why have papers by one of history’s most famous physicists been retracted?&quot; vs &quot;Why did this journal retract two 1940s papers by Max Planck?&quot;
      • WesolyKubeczek2 hours ago
        It’s almost like Nature doesn’t expect its readers to know who this Max Planck guy is. :-)