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  • cryo321 hour ago
    Just wait for the economics to catch up and eat the marketing. No effort required.
    • dgellow1 hour ago
      Though, the larger the bubble becomes the more damaging the pop will be
      • jgalt21244 minutes ago
        That's my real fear, that I have massive indirect AI bubble exposure while having zero direct exposure. Similar to how relatively few Americans had liar loans, but we all got burned by the subprime crisis. And then there were those bad actors that made the crisis work for them, and we got burned again during the uneven recovery.
  • alansaber33 minutes ago
    I've been enjoying the industrial revolution parallels. Have the economics of bespoke products changed? Not really. But is it now easier to get a crude, but functional, approximation of an idea? Yes. The main issue appears to be users conflating B for A (and not realising their AI creation is fundamentally a mess).
  • cedws1 hour ago
    The “reverse centaur” is a natural product of capitalism wanting workers to be as replaceable as possible in order to drive down wages. An ordinary “centaur” is counter to companies’ goals, they don’t want workers empowered.
    • RealityVoid58 minutes ago
      If that is true, they are incredibly stupid. Empowered workers create better, more effective companies.
      • ramon15644 minutes ago
        But they also create workers that can hop off the ship. If they're on a sinking one, they have no choice but to work hard to get back to shore.
        • RealityVoid38 minutes ago
          &gt; But they also create workers that can hop off the ship.<p>Sounds to me like a win for the workers, a win for the employer(in that they get better companies) and a win for society at large.
      • watwut38 minutes ago
        I don&#x27;t think CEO class want better, more effective companies. They have nothing to gain by that. They want monopoly situation for themselves, locked customers and helpless dependent employees.
        • alansaber37 minutes ago
          It depends but obviously they want both, both control and value.
    • jgalt21240 minutes ago
      As a business owner I assure you I am not overly obsessed with labor costs. I obsess on all costs, and all revenues. VC funded and public companies may or may not take a similarly holistic view.
  • gsky48 minutes ago
    AI spending is all what keeping american economy afloat or else a big recession
  • feverzsj52 minutes ago
    It&#x27;s kinda too big to fail in US now. If it bursts, US will decline quickly.
    • nixon_why6942 minutes ago
      It&#x27;s not, though. The banking system holds onto everyone&#x27;s money in a fractional reserve system, if you let a run on the banks happen everyone&#x27;s money is gone. That&#x27;s &quot;too big to fail&quot;.<p>If anthropic and openAI fail, the top 10% lose half their money in a stock sell-off. That&#x27;s perfectly tolerable. Maybe congress bails them out anyways but they don&#x27;t have to.
    • nxm2 minutes ago
      So you’re going to be shorting AI stocks?
  • spwa430 minutes ago
    &quot;If that’s the case, AI will let them wire the toy steering wheel directly into the drivetrain. So you can have an amazing idea as a corporate visionary, and you don’t have to have any ego-shattering confrontations with people who know how to do things, who tell you you’re actually an idiot&quot;<p>Just beautiful.
  • vkou1 hour ago
    &gt; “The bubble doesn’t want cheap useful things,” Doctorow said. “It wants expensive ‘disruptive’ things<p>That about sums it up. I challenge anyone to name five things that have gotten cheaper or better in their life thanks to AI.<p>I can&#x27;t think of anything that I consume that has gotten better, and the only thing that has gotten cheaper is the value of <i>your</i> skills to your employer, as it wants you to offload more of your work to a machine they own or rent. But perhaps someone here can find <i>some</i> tangible improvement.
    • samvher39 minutes ago
      Interesting challenge.<p>1 - I worked abroad and wasn&#x27;t really familiar with the systems there. Gemini made me aware of a kind of pension account that I could withdraw from when I left the country netting me a few thousand dollars.<p>2 - Working as a tech contractor, charging by deliverable, Codex&#x2F;Claude Code speed me up and it doesn&#x27;t seem to have significantly dropped rates in the market.<p>3 - Also contractor related: I had Claude do a quick legal sanity check of my contracts, and it warned me of some clauses that I&#x27;d be better off removing&#x2F;changing&#x2F;refining. I was not aware of these nuances and would not have paid a lawyer for this as the contract was too small, but the changes were accepted by the client and reduced my risk exposure meaningfully.<p>4 - Learning a foreign language, I use it to check my draft emails and messages. It corrects them but also serves a tutoring role providing feedback, improving both the accuracy of my communication and my rate of language acquisition.<p>5 - Gemini Deep Research helped me narrow down tent models that met my fairly specific set of requirements. Very happy with the tent I ended up buying, from a brand that was not on my radar before.
  • dude2507111 hour ago
    Bubbles do not have roots.
    • chrisweekly28 minutes ago
      I agree the mixed metaphor and grammar are a bit awkward, but &quot;its&quot; refers to AI, innit?
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    • croes1 hour ago
      Sounds more like a simpleton than a simple man.
    • 4gotunameagain1 hour ago
      And yet you choose to enshitify the comments of this thread
  • bsenftner1 hour ago
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    • jhbadger1 hour ago
      While that&#x27;s a bit cruel, I do have to wonder how exactly Doctorow got in the position he has -- he isn&#x27;t somebody who has done great things and is now a tech critic like someone like Geoffrey Hinton. He seems a pleasant enough fellow, but basically he got fame from writing SF books that he gave away for free. How does this translate into being an expert that journalists fawn over?
      • mitthrowaway259 minutes ago
        He&#x27;s also been a vocal advocate about copyright reform and against DRM, and his arguments are coherent and generally well-regarded among the tech crowd. In context, &quot;giving away books for free&quot; is a particularly strong form of putting his money where his mouth is.
      • JuniperMesos1 hour ago
        Journalists fawn over many people who write for public consumption in some way (book authors, academics, etc.), and who already agree with the point of view the journalists want to promulgate. I don&#x27;t think Doctorow has particularly more insight about AI than anyone else does, but I also don&#x27;t think that &quot;insight about AI&quot; is the main reason Ars Technica chose to publish an interview with him - they did this because Ars Technica has an anti-AI editorial position and so they find it useful to promote Doctorow&#x27;s anti-AI-book. A different group of journalists who did not have an anti-AI editorial position would not have interviewed and published Doctorow, or at least not done so under as friendly circumstances as Ars Technica did.
        • jappgar12 minutes ago
          Is this supposed to be surprising?
      • Npovview1 hour ago
        Has Doctorow implemented Transfomer from scratch as Lesswrong wants us to atleast pass the smell test?
      • alansaber35 minutes ago
        Hinton is a classic case of an academic making increasingly grandiose statements as they age.
  • pydry1 hour ago
    The bubble is weirdly being kept alive by the promise it can replace software developers, which is ironic because all it has really achieved is a deluge of slop.<p>Social media has also gone utterly crazy. The last time I saw a gaslighting operation on this scale and volume (including accounts who &quot;hate&quot; AI &quot;because its so scary good&quot;) was during the start of the Gaza war.<p>These accounts becoming easier to distinguish too, because whether they boost AI or feign criticism they all categorically refuse to use the s word.<p>I guess there is a few trillion riding on perpetuating this mass psychosis so it makes sense they&#x27;d try to use every trick to keep it going as long as possible.<p>Internet bubble was nothing like this. The scale is greater, the promises are more insane and the pop is going to be much more devastating.
    • xnx1 hour ago
      &gt; The bubble is weirdly being kept alive by the promise it can replace software developers<p>And lawyers, and doctors, and tax preparers, and financial managers...
    • jappgar14 minutes ago
      &gt; refuse to use the s word<p>strike?