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  • FinnLobsien48 minutes ago
    If you have a hobby project like writing a blog, crocheting, or almost any other creative hobby, you can dip in and out however it suits you. If you deal with major life events, sicknesses, etc., you can leave the hobby and come back. Nobody is paying you for it, so nobody can complain (maybe the friends who miss you, but it&#x27;s not actively impacting the real world).<p>Open source is one of those weird things where your hobby project can become an essential piece of infrastructure.<p>It&#x27;s like if you loved crocheting, but somehow if you stopped crocheting everyone in your city would no longer have clothes and need to walk around naked.
    • egeozcan7 minutes ago
      When I was a kid, we always had New Year&#x27;s (read: Christmas) decorations (the maximum that wouldn&#x27;t be out of place in a mostly Muslim country) on a small park in my neighborhood. One year they never appeared, and people were <i>enraged</i>.<p>The guy the city hired every year had a mob in front of his door. People&#x27;s letters to the authorities got no answer, so suddenly he apparently became their contact person. I was buying snacks in a nearby shop. I went out when I heard people shouting. They were shouting accusations at a guy who must have just appeared before his door because he was wearing pajamas in that cold weather.<p>&quot;You Islamists will ruin this country! [0]<p>Happy with what you did? My children actually cried!&quot;<p>and so on.<p>He calmly answered: &quot;This is something I did on my own. This year I got a cancer diagnosis, so I didn&#x27;t have the motivation. Sorry!&quot;<p>Him feeling the need to apologize always comes to my mind when I see the toxic comments on their unpaid work that the open source maintainers feel that they need to respond to.<p>[0]: Well, they did ruin the country. But that&#x27;s another story.
    • subygan24 minutes ago
      and nobody is willing to pay for it.
      • FinnLobsien14 minutes ago
        The value created vs value captured equation of OSS must be one of the most lopsided things ever.<p>If you’re at Google and invent Kubernetes you might still capture 0.000001% (probably less) of the economic value created by Kubernetes, but you probably enjoy very generous comp.<p>OSS doesn’t have any of that, besides being extremely in demand as a consultant or whatever.
  • asim57 minutes ago
    I wrote recently about bringing back my open source project back from the dead. It&#x27;s more than a decade old. Many life events occured during that time. It&#x27;s tough. It&#x27;s nothing like Lodash but honestly these things ebb and flow. It operates in cycles just as life does. Wish him all the best. Sounds like he had many tough years personally and I can relate.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;go-micro.dev&#x2F;blog&#x2F;27" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;go-micro.dev&#x2F;blog&#x2F;27</a>
    • reactordev34 minutes ago
      There’s only so many sprints you can do back to back to back… you are correct, things ebb and flow and they’ll relax and life will happen and they’ll come back and either pick it up or start a new. It’s OK. It’s all OK.
  • bstsb48 minutes ago
    &gt; This conversation was initially just a phone call, but was so powerful that we decided to turn it into a blog and share the audio via YouTube<p>i can tell - it looks like the blog post doesn&#x27;t really add anything over a direct transcript of the call itself. it&#x27;s just a bland summary of the really interesting story Dalton told
  • Joel_Mckay6 minutes ago
    Corollary: if software requires constant revisions it didn&#x27;t actually cover the initial problem scope, and degenerated into a high-latency service state-machine powered by coders. =3<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Second-system_effect" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Second-system_effect</a>
  • cronelius20 minutes ago
    So does this mean no Lodash 5?
  • dheera14 minutes ago
    I had an open source project (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dheera&#x2F;rosboard" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dheera&#x2F;rosboard</a>) that I burned out and didn&#x27;t really do a good job continue maintaining.<p>* I was burned out from work politics at the same time, and had to prioritize fighting those work politics since that&#x27;s what was paying me. By the end of each day at that company, I didn&#x27;t feel like staring at a screen any more<p>* I would get a flurry of poorly-tested pull requests that would break it for some users<p>* I got lots of suggestions of &lt;feature to implement&gt; which weren&#x27;t well thought out for how to generalize<p>* No actually good engineer stepped up to say &quot;I want to help with this&quot;<p>* There was a commercial alternative that had gotten funding and they were better at marketing
  • Devasta53 minutes ago
    This is unironically why the AGPL3 is the best license. No need to worry about &quot;virality&quot; or derivative works or any of that, just set it and forget it. On top of that, corporations will avoid you like the plague, ensuring that your audience is other AGPL3 users.
    • embedding-shape32 minutes ago
      I&#x27;ve used MIT almost exclusively for anything I&#x27;ve published, under multiple identities, and seems to work fine too. What benefit would AGPL3 give me over MIT, in terms of avoiding burnout? So far, saying &quot;No&quot; or not working for free for companies, been working fine as an approach so far, but always open to hearing even better approaches.
      • hilariously13 minutes ago
        It prevents the No from ever materializing because almost no one wants to use your code to build on top of.
        • embedding-shape10 minutes ago
          How am I supposed to practice saying &quot;No&quot; in low-stakes situations then? :|
          • hilariously2 minutes ago
            I would tell you but I am practicing right now.
    • arikrahman50 minutes ago
      I am happy with the network solution AGPL provides on top of GPL. I think a new AGPL version needs to come out that addresses rewriting codebases with AI and claiming new original work.
      • FinnLobsien47 minutes ago
        How would you enforce that? I&#x27;m genuinely curious. It&#x27;s nearly impossible to conclusively prove someone rewrote your codebase with AI.
        • dovesky6 minutes ago
          I don&#x27;t think you can, which is also why Open Source is effectively dead thanks to AI.
        • slopinthebag2 minutes ago
          Plenty of rules and laws exist in which enforcement is difficult, and nonetheless exist. I think it’s enough to make some legal departments say no, and there are also companies stupid enough to brag about it regardless if it breaks the law.
        • Raed66742 minutes ago
          Unless they proudly claim it as they seem so keen to do