4 comments

  • rickydroll24 minutes ago
    I think it's time to put data centers on a power budget. If they want to make more money, they need to become more efficient and eliminate AI fraud, waste, and abuse.
  • stldev12 minutes ago
    Do we really need to keep slamming the grid and killing the planet for pseudonymous casino chips?<p>Can someone please merge crypto with llm training&#x2F;inference somehow?
  • jeffbee45 minutes ago
    This sounds like a good reason to have a lot of batteries.
    • weird-eye-issue39 minutes ago
      A lot would probably be an understatement. Aren&#x27;t most batteries in data centers designed to just hold load for seconds or a few minutes at a time while generators start up?
      • zephen34 minutes ago
        Yeah, different batteries, different purposes.<p>Keeping the data center up is completely different from keeping the grid up.<p>Not only are the batteries too small; they&#x27;re also on the wrong side of the disconnect.
    • forgetfreeman38 minutes ago
      I&#x27;d rather see legislation banning crypto mining and AI data centers from the public grid entirely. No sense in forcing the broader public to subsidize them.
      • MBCook22 minutes ago
        The problem with that is one of the best things we have to control pollution at power plants is the rules that go into place when connecting to the US grid (I know TX is different).<p>I really don’t want to incentivize private power plants that aren’t on grid. Or just running tons of industrial sized generators instead.<p>If we’re going to allow enough of this stuff to be built that it can destabilize things why not require they behave and don’t stop off like that? Some sort of organized draw down?<p>And if they don’t? Mandatory cutoff for X amount of time. Weeks&#x2F;months.
        • toomuchtodo19 minutes ago
          Ban private fossil generators above a certain size without a license. You can just do things. They can build as much solar and batteries as they want.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datacenterdynamics.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;news&#x2F;google-confirms-1gw-data-center-campus-near-detroit-michigan-partners-with-dte-energy-on-27gw-power-generation&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datacenterdynamics.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;news&#x2F;google-confirms-1...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datacenterdynamics.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;news&#x2F;google-announces-first-data-center-in-minnesota&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.datacenterdynamics.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;news&#x2F;google-announces-...</a>
          • dpark0 minutes ago
            SpaceX is running a bunch of “portable”, high pollution gas generators in Memphis, TN specifically to get around the regulation you’re describing.
      • rickydroll20 minutes ago
        If they weren&#x27;t on the public grid, they would just slap in a bunch of gas turbines and run one of the noisier, more polluting sources of electricity. I think it would be better if we required them to replace the power they used, but do so on the grid so that it benefits everyone.
      • BobbyTables25 minutes ago
        Didn’t Texas pretty much do the exact opposite thing recently?
  • m-hodges20 minutes ago
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