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  • jfengel52 minutes ago
    Headline is weird. It's not a copyright thing, as I had assumed. It was because it was an editorial criticizing how the administration is running the NIH.
    • Terr_39 minutes ago
      And not an arbitrary editorial, but:<p>&gt; &gt; Some questioned how handing out reprints of an editorial published in the ADA’s own journal, at the ADA’s own annual conference, could be construed as a violation of that code.
    • Forgeties7934 minutes ago
      An editorial published in the (reputable) journal <i>Diabetes Care</i>, which they handed out at a diabetes conference. I imagine if it wasn’t critical of the administration they would not have been told to stop, but this is Louisiana so
      • eesmith26 minutes ago
        And one of the people kicked out was Steven Kahn, a co-author of the editorial, and <i>editor-in-chief</i> of Diabetes Care.
        • metalman18 minutes ago
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          • Forgeties7917 minutes ago
            You can’t talk to people like that here. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html</a>
  • nritchie38 minutes ago
    Science funding in the US is in crisis. We need to stand with those bold enough to point out that the emperor has no clothing.
    • warumdarum33 minutes ago
      Maybe that naked emperor wouldn&#x27;t have been voted in where science not already in crisis before he appeared on the screen. A crisis of results, a crisis of ideological utopism, a crisis of denial of uncomfortable realities, a crisis of an elite so detached from the on the ground physics and social reality that they couldnt even predict their own downfall by tribalist regressors. Remember doubt in the social fiction is heresy! I m evil ..
      • vjsrinivas2 minutes ago
        Almost all of these don&#x27;t apply to diabetes science. Its just the unfortunate nature of the average populace collapsing the complicated nature of scientific work and real human issues into problems that affect &quot;science&quot;. Also, bad actors that want to twist the uncertainity of certain scientific areas into fake news.
      • nandomrumber23 minutes ago
        &gt; own downfall by tribalist regressors.<p>As an outsider, it’s not clear to me who you are referring to as <i>tribalist regressors</i> here.<p>Would you mind clarifying?
        • db48x14 minutes ago
          He means people who supported Trump. It’s not a very accurate description of them, but he has a point otherwise.
      • gwerbin24 minutes ago
        Are you talking about science, or politics? I don&#x27;t think any of this applies to diabetes research.
        • oskarkk8 minutes ago
          You&#x27;re commenting under an article about politics, not about diabetes research.
      • watwut26 minutes ago
        Nah. Science was not in such crises.<p>It is literally people who want to deny uncomfortable realities that are attacking and destroying it now. The ideological anti reality issue is in the side of Trump voters.<p>Also, funny enough, people who were correctly predicting what conservatives will do were called out of touch by people like you. Quite a few of them were actually social scientists and yes they have seen it.
        • nritchie16 minutes ago
          Right, science, while not perfect (being a human endeavor), is our best mechanism for getting closer to the truth. Sure, fraud happens (occasionally). Not all &quot;results&quot; are a step forward. But the system is inherently self correcting. The problem is the politicization of science funding when scientific results don&#x27;t fit into a dogma driven view of the world.
        • nandomrumber18 minutes ago
          &gt; social scientists<p>There really isn’t such a thing.<p>The social sciences are the prototypical case of trying to measure something having an effect on the thing being measured.<p>Ask a geologist about climate, they are the original climate scientist. Modern <i>climate science</i> isn’t science, it’s Climatism.<p>Try getting funding for climate science research that questions the status quo.
          • uniqueuid10 minutes ago
            The causal loop you mentioned makes social science hard, but I’d argue that falsification and hypothesis-driven research can still work. Otherwise all the behavioral targeting Meta and Google and co are doing would not work.
          • nritchie8 minutes ago
            I have no idea what you are babbling about. Sure, the evolution of the climate is recorded in the geological record. Climate scientists largely understand why these geological timescale events happened. What we are now undergoing is orders-of-magnitude faster than any geologically recorded event. Except for catastrophic events like meteorite impacts and mega-vulcanism there has never been such a rapid change. And climate scientists understand why. Look in the mirror. It is us.
  • hnarayanan4 minutes ago
    I used to do this when I was in grad school as a matter of principle. F the man.
  • KnuthIsGod4 minutes ago
    Tomorrow Robert Kennedy will announce that diabetes is fake news,does not exist and can become cured by taking ivermectin and avoiding seed oils and Tylenol....<p>The next day Trump will have the 173rd Airborne kidnap the entire editorial board of the American Diabetic Association and will get them good plated with fake gilt from Temu.
  • farcetrue28 minutes ago
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    • trumpdong4 minutes ago
      You&#x27;re using a throwaway account for a reason.
      • thereasoniis2 minutes ago
        Because mods continually delete my accounts even in violation of their own terms of service.<p>But don&#x27;t engage with the bad wrong think, just flag it and move on! The censors would be proud of you all.
    • SirFatty7 minutes ago
      Lighten up, Francis.