6 comments

  • Mabusto2 hours ago
    As long as I can connect my 3D TV, I can't wait to sip some Juicero and watch Quibi on it.
  • Avicebron4 hours ago
    As long as the models are local this doesn't seem that crazy. What concerns me is that these are "agentic PCs" that only work with a subscription.
  • Animats3 hours ago
    The "agentic PC" for consumers probably would be something you talk to, and would look like Alexa or a living room TV or glasshole glasses. Something other than a keyboard and screen combo.
  • devn0ll5 hours ago
    Seeing how we are responding to AI or the copilot button on pc&#x27;s... I _dare_ to suggest this &quot;Agentic era&quot; is nothing more then wishful thinking. Not supported by any real wish or need on the consumer side.<p>Well, at least for me: no thanks.
    • Closi3 hours ago
      &gt; Seeing how we are responding to AI or the copilot button on pc&#x27;s... I _dare_ to suggest this &quot;Agentic era&quot; is nothing more then wishful thinking<p>Depends who &#x27;we&#x27; is - I&#x27;ve seen plenty of non-tech people in the real world begin to use ChatGPT as a primary information source rather than the web (rightfully or not!)<p>I suspect that &#x27;we&#x27; might not be the true early adopters here, similar to how quite a lot of the most technical users in the 80&#x27;s thought GUI&#x27;s were a waste of time.
      • Octoth0rpe3 hours ago
        &gt; Depends who &#x27;we&#x27; is - I&#x27;ve seen plenty of non-tech people in the real world begin to use ChatGPT as a primary information source rather than the web (rightfully or not!)<p>I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s really what people are talking about when they talk about &#x27;agentic&#x27; PCs.
        • cromka2 hours ago
          I think that was example of how previously seemingly impossible things are happening things are happening quickly.
    • cromka2 hours ago
      As much as I hate it, you and your opinion is exactly what Jobs always talked about: people don&#x27;t need things until they realize they need them.<p>You not envisioning use for it is just a past bias. You can&#x27;t know that. You can&#x27;t because we haven&#x27;t yet reached the point where the OS is fully useful when controlled with AI.
      • gedy1 hour ago
        But the industry types have been talking about &quot;agents&quot; for 30 years... This used to be a thing that &quot;intelligent agents will go on the internet and gather information for you&quot; then search engines came out and people were happy with that instead.
      • sublinear1 hour ago
        I&#x27;m sorry, but what was Steve Jobs ever uniquely right about except that we needed better touch screens on smartphones?<p>We don&#x27;t see the same obvious applications of AI because nobody has developed a proper user interface for it. We&#x27;re stuck with voice, chat, and dumping documents onto it. The current pro-AI stance is basically &quot;fuck the user and fuck interfaces&quot;.
    • tmaly4 hours ago
      I had to buy a new washing machine last year. It has an AI mode, what ever that is. I have never used the mode.
      • squid_ca1 hour ago
        Mine too. I think it&#x27;s just a buzzword, like, this would have been called &quot;Smart Wash&quot; five years ago.
      • syberspace4 hours ago
        as far as I&#x27;ve understood the AI mode on my new-ish washing machine: it&#x27;s just a renamed &quot;automatic&quot; mode that uses a sensor to measure how heavy the load is and adjusts the cycle length. there is absolutely no AI involved, just an if-statement or equivalent logic gates. I&#x27;d guess yours does something similar
        • Animats3 hours ago
          Washers now do have useful control systems. Mine starts out by spinning the tub a little, before adding water, to measure the load. Out of balance problems are a thing of the past - that&#x27;s sensed and dealt with automatically. It&#x27;s able to handle bed comforters or sneakers without problems. But it&#x27;s not &quot;AI&quot;, and it doesn&#x27;t have a network connection.
        • jagged-chisel4 hours ago
          Literally, “simulated intelligence” at best.<p>But for marketing, “artificial intelligence” is fine. And better than LLMs being called “AI”
          • ajam15073 hours ago
            Surprising that there are still people who don&#x27;t think LLMs qualify as AI
            • Octoth0rpe3 hours ago
              I think in some people&#x27;s minds, the concept of sentience and intelligence are intertwined, and there are at least some people (myself included) who do not think they&#x27;re the same. There is a strong (but surprisingly not universal) consensus that LLMs are not sentient, so if you insist that sentience&#x2F;intelligence are the same thing, then LLMs don&#x27;t qualify as AI either. If you think the two concepts are separable, then they&#x27;re intelligent but not sentient. The devil is of course in the definitions.
      • andai4 hours ago
        On my walk today I passed an LG company van. It had an ad for one of their new AC units on the side. &quot;AI Air&quot;
        • throw-the-towel6 minutes ago
          A bar I know had an &quot;AI designed shot&quot; back in 2023.
      • forinti3 hours ago
        There&#x27;s a billboard near my home with an ad for &quot;AI designed glasses&quot;.
    • corv4 hours ago
      Less space than a nomad. Lame.<p>To be fair, I find the term to be as contrived as “performant”
    • XorNot3 hours ago
      What you&#x27;re not planning to upgrade from your Web 3.0 platform to an Agentic one?<p>Scandalous!
  • Henchman214 hours ago
    Given that we’re making ourselves dumber through AI, education funding cuts, social media, and foolish propaganda AND the population is shrinking and everyone is seemingly depressed:<p>The most likely outcome is the world in the children’s cartoon “Thundarr the Barbarian”. People living in the collapsed ruins of the past society, belief in magic, etc.<p>A post-apocalyptic hellscape, essentially.
    • andai4 hours ago
      &gt; People living in the collapsed ruins of the past society<p>Kind of feels like I was already born into that.
      • baron3dl1 hour ago
        is this not an essential human condition?
  • yogthos4 hours ago
    I think it&#x27;s almost certain that we&#x27;ll be moving to running local models as a default in a few years. The quality of small models has been improving at an astonishing rate in my opinion. My favorite example is how Qwen3.6-27B that you can run on a laptop outperforms Qwen3.5-397B which was a flagship model requiring a commercial grade server that was released just in February. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qwen.ai&#x2F;blog?id=qwen3.6-27b" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;qwen.ai&#x2F;blog?id=qwen3.6-27b</a><p>I fully expect that local models models that are comparable to current frontier models in performance will appear in the near future. Additionally, a lot more can be done with the harness as well, which in my opinion is an under-explored territory right now. For example, ATLAS does some clever tricks in this area <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;itigges22&#x2F;ATLAS" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;itigges22&#x2F;ATLAS</a><p>I started working on my own harness and also notice a significant improvement in model capability with it <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dirge-code.github.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dirge-code.github.io</a><p>Apple seems to be one of the few companies to have realized that the future is likely local, and they&#x27;ve been focusing on optimizing hardware for that while everybody else seems to still be stuck in a model as a service paradigm.
    • baron3dl1 hour ago
      I think Apple&#x27;s tech-heavy user base and vertically integrated hardware&#x2F;network&#x2F;software mega architecture positioned them perfectly to beat the rest of the market to 1st runner up. The competition knows, they just can&#x27;t move that fast.<p>&gt; I started working on my own harness and also notice a significant improvement in model capability with it <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dirge-code.github.io" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dirge-code.github.io</a><p>You should mine your session logs for examples of scenarios that demonstrate this improvement. If you can characterize it in a time series metric, like tokens&#x2F;feature, as you applied improvements, then you&#x27;re offering a receipt.
      • yogthos55 minutes ago
        Yeah, that&#x27;s a good idea. I haven&#x27;t really been rigorous with tracking the token usage metrics when I started. I was thinking I could compare solving tasks with opencode too and track metrics for both.