I will never buy a Surface device ever again. I've been using an SL4 for the last four years with Linux on it, thanks to the surface-linux kernel.<p>It's awful. It feels like it's actively refusing to work properly with Linux.<p>Fair - it's not for Linux, and clearly that is expected with a Microsoft device.<p>I've recently had to call their support for missing rubber feet. I figured I could get the replacement mailed. An AI answered, did not understand what I was saying at all, hung up the call. I called again; it told me to check the website and hung up, not even giving me a chance to say anything.<p>Okay. Guess I'll never buy anything from you ever. Ordered them off of Aliexpress and moved on.
When will these companies realize nobody wants to talk to an AI? The reason we begrudgingly pick up the phone is because some problem is not solvable through the website. The last thing we want at that point is an automated system parroting the website back to us, or telling us to go there ourselves
What's this nonsensical video on the product page that allegedly shows an "all new thermal system"?
<a href="https://videos.ctfassets.net/jy9s7k22hbg4/44R1LH71xb8uO4c9dDzRWa/63f5e264a6817ef9dec8f3b4284f8a78/msft-r-scrolling-slide-silicon-cooling-desktop-fy26.mp4" rel="nofollow">https://videos.ctfassets.net/jy9s7k22hbg4/44R1LH71xb8uO4c9dD...</a>
„Built on Windows”. That’s like anti-ad these days. Maybe, maybe worth looking at if you can run other OS than Windows on it, but that will probably take some time.
The emphasis on the fans kicking off also had a bit of a turn-off.
Ya, i dont know of anyone wanting to run very large AI models in a windows environment. Or, frankly, on a laptop. Why not just VPN into a dedicated server?
I do. I can take my laptop anywhere I want, for example to a coffee shop and run a coding model while eating a croissant without worrying about an internet connection, as the term local model implies.
How much does a dedicated server with 128GB vram cost a month.
You can get an H200 (141GB) here for $2,700/mo: <a href="https://deploybase.ai/articles/h200-price" rel="nofollow">https://deploybase.ai/articles/h200-price</a><p>I could be wrong but my understanding is that 24/7 dedicated servers are wildly economically unviable. The reason cloud tends to cost less than local today (other than the subsidization) is because you aren't running models 24/7. So like 6 hours of cloud per weekday might beat the yearly cost of building local machines, but it's not in the same universe if you're running 24/7, as evidenced by two months of H200 rental costing more than the DGX Spark this Laptop is built out of.
Less than this laptop.
What happens if you vibe code an entire hardware product?
I've had about 4 generations of surface devices. Never again. The frustration of that SP4 where every bodies screen would jitter and they would just stoiclly send me a replacement with the same problem. Until warranty expired.<p>Or every model after that just slowed down to a crawl after a year. Or the keyboard connection not working reliably.<p>No thank you very much.
I have only had three and they have been very good. Still using one as my daily driver.<p>First one had a battery bulge and got a free replacement to the current version. I think that went from 2016 to 2017. That one actually lost a battery bank and I got another upgrade to the 2018 version. The keyboard died on that one for some reason and they just replaced it for free.<p>I could understand if platform decay has occurred since 2018 though. But for a while, it was excellent.
These machines are total garbage in my experience.<p>> And with all-day battery life[ii]<p>If they managed to get anywhere near Apple, they'd have confidently published some kind of actual hour figure without a scare citation.
"The world is full of makers. Only a few make the world."<p>What does this mean ? How can you make the world ?
This might actually be cool hardware! I'm just wondering why anyone would waste all the overhead for the Windows OS. There's probably only 48 Gigs of unified memory left when your log-on completes...
Surface has seen so many iterations, some terrible, some nice. Still rocking the discontinued surface laptop studio as Wacom on the go, smallish footprint (14”) creative development machine. I just love its quirkiness and the fact that I can jump on photoshop to touch up an image, use it as tablet for movies, or vs code for (not great nowadays) 6h on battery. It is an odd intersection.
My surface book 2 has the best feeling keyboard I ever used on a laptop. And I still really like the overall unique form factor and 3:4 display with touch support.<p>But it didn't age too well, the battery is giving up and the SSD is pretty slow. Plus windows being a real slug doesn't make the experience that great anymore
And I have one that I use as thin client for my desktop, Linux made it usable! 10 year old surface pro 3, 8 to 9hr battery life, takes less than 20s to boot up to Gnome, no issues browsing on Firefox, it's a solid device on the go. And to my total surprise, it retained charge even after almost a month of no usage.
That is great battery life! I also wanted to try Linux, but I think I’ll lose the wacom feature. I also use it as a thin client for my Linux machines, and jointly with my Mac means I have access to all platforms.
> Made for a kind of work that does not fit in a standard laptop.<p>Yeah, sure... And that kind of work is...???<p>The only device I'm still happy to own from them is the Classic IntelliMouse.<p>For me, anything else, be hardware or software, I stay very far away from them.
Wondering about Linux support. Would it take Asahi-level community commitment? For Windows, ~no one will switch from their macs for some (seemingly) single-year-generational gains. It would need some distinctive feature, not only performance. For me, the 2in1/tablet aspect was that, which they drop now.
That copy reeks of AI generated text... for a premium, luxury laptop. What a shame.
No price? I guess over 3k for 128GB ram and Nvidia spark.
Also RAM was still quite a bit cheaper when the DGX was announced back in early '25.
I read somewhere, $4k for 64gb ram
Is it possible to be cheaper than the DGX Spark? Because that's $4,700. I would think Spark + Laptop would be necessarily more expensive.
I guess that if I have to ask for the price, it’s not for me.
The biggest downside of this product is Windows
I sometimes wonder if the "Corporate VP" (whatever that means) believes his own jerk-off marketing
Surface Laptop Ultra Ripoff: Made for World(-Class) Suckers.
What's conspicuously absent, is the CPU that's going to power this thing. Yes, it's got an Nvidia GPU, but does it have an Intel CPU, an AMD CPU, an Nvidia ARM CPU, or someone else's ARM CPU?
<a href="https://www.theverge.com/news/940275/nvidia-n1x-laptop-processor-arm-microsoft-teaser" rel="nofollow">https://www.theverge.com/news/940275/nvidia-n1x-laptop-proce...</a>
My understanding is that it’s got a bespoke 20 core Nvidia Vera CPU - unified RTX Vera Rubin Spark chip. Seems like Nvidia trying to copy Apple M-series chip
I could be wrong but I don't think there are any arm machines with nvidia GPU yet, I think that would be a first.<p>So it's probably Intel
Nvidia's current flagship product is Nvidia GB200 NVL72, which is a super computer the size of however many racks you can afford, with 72 Blackwell CPUs and 36 Grace ARM CPUs to a rack. At the other end of the spectrum, is the Nvidia Jetson series, which is a GPU attached to an Nvidia Grace ARM CPU.<p>Nevermind, it's totally this chip/board.<p><a href="https://www.techtimes.com/articles/317428/20260530/nvidia-arm-laptop-chip-n1x-confirmed-computex-cuda-rtx-5070-gpu-onboard.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.techtimes.com/articles/317428/20260530/nvidia-ar...</a>
I wonder what kind of brightness that 2000 nit screen will actually deliver? Everyone rates their screens on peak, but then SDR is the same 250-350 nit range for most systems.<p>What's the actual connectivity? USB4? with or without PCIe tunneling? How many ports?<p>How much is it going to weigh? Battery life? Battery capacity?<p>DGX Spark desktops idle close to 20w on Linux: that's a lot for a laptop. I'm expecting Nvidia+Microsoft stepped up their driver game some for this release, but it's wild how few creature comforts or nicities DGX Spark came with. Launched with and still has almost no power monitoring or power management capabilities. If you turn on the highspeed NIC it turns into a 40W hotbox even at idle. Nvidia has such a weird mix of supporting what they want to support well, but doing absolutely nothing else. The way Shield TV is still occasionally getting some updates is impressive for example, but it's stayed on an ancient Android version & went a good fraction of a decade without update. Similarly, keeping folks locked on rickety old Linux4Tegra and now DGX Spark heavily modified Linux OSes has been brutal. It's hard to believe this system is going to be much better than a fantastically expensive bag of barely managed idiosyncratic quirks.
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