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  • some_random46 minutes ago
    What a masterclass in modern spin:<p>1: Take a problem, in this case tobacco consumption<p>2: Isolate a part of it, ideally a the part that is most visible and&#x2F;or easiest to go after. As others have mentioned, Sweden has a large culture of non-smoked tobacco consumption<p>3: Define an easily achieved win condition, brand it as complete success. In this case &quot;smoke-free&quot; means under 1 in 20 Swedes smoke<p>4: Get your buddies in the press to publish breathless articles on your &#x27;Incredible&#x27; milestone<p>5 (ideally optional): If anyone ever tries to hold you accountable, double down.
    • SR2Z36 minutes ago
      To be entirely fair, a whole country switching from smoking to safer oral nicotine is a massive health win. The bad things in cigarettes are mostly not nicotine.
      • buzer18 minutes ago
        To be clear they commonly use snus which is tobacco product, not just nicotine pouch. It shares many of the health issues associated with smoking tobacco and also has it&#x27;s own ones (e.g. related to gum health).
      • nousermane26 minutes ago
        Also - less passive smoking!<p>Personally, I don&#x27;t mind somebody consuming snus short distance upwind from me. Smoking, on the other hand... Please, don&#x27;t.
    • root-parent10 minutes ago
      Next one! ....Norwegians and the global climate benefits of Electric cars :-))
    • hvb228 minutes ago
      &gt; If anyone ever tries to hold you accountable, double down.<p>Basically the entire policy of the current US administration summed up in a sentence lol
      • some_random17 minutes ago
        You only think that because you don&#x27;t consume news from other nations.
  • Nesco1 hour ago
    Last time I went there I saw a founder that couldn’t do an interview without changing zyn pouches every literal five (5) minutes
    • dehrmann50 minutes ago
      FT ran this headline a few days ago: French nicotine pouch ban is ‘attack on Swedish way of life’, minister says
  • belval1 hour ago
    &gt; Smoke-free<p>&gt; Less than 5%<p>Incredible milestone but when 1 in 20 is still smoking I feel like it&#x27;s a bit early to call yourself smoke free.
    • SoftTalker1 hour ago
      As a child in the 1970s I visited family there and my memory is that it seemed like <i>every</i> adult and older teen smoked. Often filterless. So it&#x27;s quite a change in a few decades.
      • vondur57 minutes ago
        I think everywhere in the west was like that in the 70s.
      • philipallstar1 hour ago
        I think the UK is lower than this - it&#x27;s pretty unusual to see people smoking. Far less common than on the continent.
        • jghn59 minutes ago
          Perhaps that&#x27;s location dependent. I was just there and was taken aback by how many more people I saw smoking than where I live in the US. Still not as much as southern or eastern Europe, but more than the large US city nearest me.
        • ardentsword58 minutes ago
          It&#x27;s low indeed, but still around 10% in 2024: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ons.gov.uk&#x2F;peoplepopulationandcommunity&#x2F;healthandsocialcare&#x2F;healthandlifeexpectancies&#x2F;bulletins&#x2F;adultsmokinghabitsingreatbritain&#x2F;2024" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ons.gov.uk&#x2F;peoplepopulationandcommunity&#x2F;healthan...</a>
    • stunseed40 minutes ago
      Yeah... I live here, and I would definitely not call us smoke free. But it&#x27;s gotten better.
    • darth_avocado42 minutes ago
      If 1 in 20 is smoke free, I’m declaring the 1 in 10 rate in the us as ALMOST smoke free.
  • porsager30 minutes ago
    Correction. Only 5% admit to smoking
  • TazeTSchnitzel1 hour ago
    Sweden is unusual in that it has a culture of using <i>snus</i>, a non-smoking tobacco preparation, and in fact it is unique among the EU member states in having it actually be legal (it&#x27;s banned EU-wide, but Sweden got an opt-out in the accession negotiations). Neighbouring Norway also has legal snus but Norway isn&#x27;t a full EU member.<p>This probably contributes to the low smoking rates, but it also means that Swedish politicians love acting like the tobacco industry is their best friend,[1][2] because it&#x27;s in the national interest to protect this uniquely Swedish tradition or whatever. And recently, the so-called white snus (Swedicism; English name is nicotine pouches, only Sweden considers this a kind of snus) like ZYN is a way for the Swedish tobacco industry to get a new generation of young people hooked in nicotine, interestingly including ones <i>outside</i> Sweden.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.svt.se&#x2F;nyheter&#x2F;inrikes&#x2F;regeringen-presenterade-tobakslobbyns-argument-som-fakta" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.svt.se&#x2F;nyheter&#x2F;inrikes&#x2F;regeringen-presenterade-t...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.svt.se&#x2F;nyheter&#x2F;utrikes&#x2F;svenskar-i-eu-pratar-flitigast-med-tobakslobbyn" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.svt.se&#x2F;nyheter&#x2F;utrikes&#x2F;svenskar-i-eu-pratar-flit...</a>
    • EmilStenstrom1 hour ago
      Here&#x27;s a free, fact-packed, breakdown on both smoking and &quot;snus&quot; in Sweden: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se&#x2F;the-public-health-agency-of-sweden&#x2F;living-conditions-and-lifestyle&#x2F;andtg&#x2F;tobacco&#x2F;use-of-tobacco-and-nicotine-products&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se&#x2F;the-public-health-agency...</a><p>Numbers are from 2024, but smoking was at 5.4%, and snus at 15.7%.
      • TazeTSchnitzel58 minutes ago
        &gt; The increase [in use of snus] is particularly evident among women aged 16–29 years, where the proportion of daily snus users has risen from 3 percent in 2018 to 18 percent in 2024.<p>Geez that&#x27;s a little alarming. Looks like that&#x27;s basically all down to nicotine pouches too.
    • impossiblefork20 minutes ago
      Yes, the whole thing is remarkably awful. Disgusting too.
    • calvinmorrison1 hour ago
      We will not tolerate snus slander here! long live swedish match
      • lawn57 minutes ago
        As I Swede snus can suck it.
      • Y-bar1 hour ago
        I will openly hate on Swedish snusers until they stop littering their pouches and cakes every-damn-where. Some of those guys even throw it onto indoor ceilings. It’s disgusting.
        • MonitorBird1 hour ago
          In korea people will chug through americanos like its water and dump the cups on the streets because there are no trash cans. If they had nic pouches there there is a good chance theyd clog the sewer system.<p>Id still take nic pouches and plastic cups over cig smoking losers anyday of the week
  • nephihaha1 hour ago
    I wonder what their next moral&#x2F;health&#x2F;social&#x2F;environmental crusade will be. Governments have made vast sums out of tobacco duty, so what do they need to make up for that?