12 comments

  • kayson57 minutes ago
    &gt; In further digging, we noticed that the URL the phone opens up is “kira-abboud.com,” a website that references fashion influencer “@kirasfashionfinds.” Notably, this exact URL isn’t listed anywhere on Abboud’s social media, and the affiliate codes don’t match up either. The redirect coming from Motorola phones is using Amazona affiliate code “sramz-kff-008-20” which is completely different from any of the codes we saw from links shared by Abboud’s accounts and linked websites.<p>Something funny is up; this doesn&#x27;t seem deliberate.
    • londons_explore4 minutes ago
      My guess is a rogue employee who hopes they can get away with this stuff for years till caught...
  • xzxz51 minutes ago
    I used to choose Motorola devices for a long time but since 2 years when I bought Edge 30 Fusion I started to notice they automatically (without my knowledge) add 3 stupid apps or games about two times a month :&#x2F; There is no way to stop it. My kids phones are stuffed with this sh*t.
    • microtonal47 minutes ago
      On some phones this is done by something like AppCloud, which you can usually uninstall from the user partition using ADB&#x2F;Universal Android Debloater.
    • tredre319 minutes ago
      &gt; There is no way to stop it.<p>There are ways. All the apps that install this crap can be disabled through Android&#x27;s app manager, no fancy method required. (Of course updates can bring them back... But &quot;luckily&quot; Motorola isn&#x27;t too keen on providing those for their products).<p>Some examples of the apps to look for:<p>- App Box<p>- Games<p>- MotoApps<p>- Moto App Manager<p>- Live lock screen<p>The active adware apps depends on your region and career. In some region Motorola doesn&#x27;t push adware at all.<p>Personally by just disabling those (and similar sounding crap) I&#x27;ve never had adware sneakily installed.<p>For Moto G or lower tiers Edge I can begrudgingly accept that it&#x27;s part of the deal... But I would be livid if they did this to my $1500 phone, which is why I refuse to risk getting a razr. Whether you want to fight your phone maker and keep using their product is up to you.<p>Let&#x27;s hope that the grapheneos partnership plays off in our favor next year!
    • brnt8 minutes ago
      You are in luck: LineageOS supports many Motorola devices, including the Edge 30.
    • KennyBlanken21 minutes ago
      Luckily there is a mobile phone OS and hardware that isn&#x27;t produced by the world&#x27;s largest advertising company, and furthermore doesn&#x27;t allow two different corporations to be involved in the core OS of the device.
      • tredre315 minutes ago
        You&#x27;re right but we can&#x27;t easily get Huawei devices in North America.
  • 99990000099941 minutes ago
    To think I was worried about buying a Xiaomi tablet while already using a Motorola.<p>Gonna flash a rom on the Xiaomi anyway, but all oems are doing this type of stuff.
    • KennyBlanken18 minutes ago
      All <i>Android</i> OEMs are &quot;doing this type of stuff.&quot;
  • risfriend28 minutes ago
    This is really unethical, replacing original app shortcuts breaks trust.
  • blitzo56 minutes ago
    Isn&#x27;t this cookie stuffing? Same modus operandi using by Geo-something widget back in 2000s with hidden ebay affiliate links that got caught by FBI. Someone should go in jail for this.
  • coretx42 minutes ago
    That begs the question! Did they use a Sony rootkit ? XD
  • dotcoma1 hour ago
    How low can you go?
  • gsky1 hour ago
    Chinese brands always pull this stuff
  • warrantisall47 minutes ago
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  • gib4441 hour ago
    I was possibly thinking of getting a Motorola with G.ràphenéOS when released.<p>Yeah, not now.
    • Uzazo1 hour ago
      The described behavior would not happen when you use a custom OS.<p>I understand not wanting to give Motorola any money because of this, though.
      • Cider99861 hour ago
        True. Google does much worse things overall, but they aren&#x27;t as surface-level scammy as this.
      • gib4441 hour ago
        The tail never wags the dog.<p>Initially the project won&#x27;t change, but it likely will over time.
        • microtonal41 minutes ago
          But AFAIK it doesn&#x27;t work like that. Motorola makes a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, provides firmware bundles, etc., but the OS images will be made by the GrapheneOS team and they would never do anything like that.<p>(I think the misunderstanding is that Motorola would make the GrapheneOS builds.)
  • sourcegrift1 hour ago
    If an anti-worker company is getting fleeced, nothing wrong with that.<p>I hope motorola collaborates with Pine and brings linux to phones. In the age of LLM apps are obviously not a problem. (Hopefully windows Phone 7, not 8 also comes back)
    • WolfeReader22 minutes ago
      I agree with your overall opinion, but not sure why you had to bring LLMs into a topic that has nothing to do with them.
  • dingensundso50 minutes ago
    Calling this &quot;hijacking the Amazon app&quot; is hyperbolic in my opinion. They replaced the shortcut in the app drawer. To me this looks like normal scummy OEM behaviour, like pre-installing spyware, &quot;anti-&quot; malware, adware etc. which sadly pretty much every mobile&#x2F;computer manufacturer does.<p>Replacing the OS is one of the first things I do with every laptop, PC and mobile device to get rid of (most) crap that was installed without my consent.