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  • MSFT_Edging24 minutes ago
    We may lose stable seasons for growing crops, but at least the chat bot can embed an ad into your question while you wait for your burrito taxi.<p>What is the point of this convenience when it really seems to just be making people miserable and isolated?<p>We&#x27;re driving off a cliff, and our elected government has a death drive.
    • 21asdffdsa125 minutes ago
      Worse, they have a &quot;i want to flee responsibility&quot; drive. You can see it in there eyes, when they hold press conferences, while having on the paper the verbose &quot;you are absolutely right&quot;. They want the perks, not the responsibility that comes with power.
    • stavros17 minutes ago
      Stop focusing on energy usage and start focusing on energy generation. It doesn&#x27;t matter how much energy we consume if it comes from renewables.
      • mathgeek13 minutes ago
        It does matter because of the side effects (pollution, etc.). The environment and how it affects humanity is a complex system with many variables. Both generation and consumption are in there.
        • stavros9 minutes ago
          We&#x27;re talking about global warming specifically here, though. Cars and planes should be a much bigger worry than AI power usage.
      • agilob4 minutes ago
        What good does PV generated energy make if all that energy is used to generate heat and evaporating water?
      • simgt11 minutes ago
        It does matter because for now renewables are manufactured mostly with coal and oil
        • michaelbuckbee2 minutes ago
          All of the cradle-to-grave studies I&#x27;ve seen about greenhouse gas emissions for renewables versus coal&#x2F;oil still indicate massive improvements.<p>This government meta study of 3,000 such studies puts PV solar at roughly 20x less emissions than coal.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.nrel.gov&#x2F;docs&#x2F;fy21osti&#x2F;80580.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.nrel.gov&#x2F;docs&#x2F;fy21osti&#x2F;80580.pdf</a>
        • speed_spread4 minutes ago
          They&#x27;re manufactured once and then generate way more energy than was used to make them.
          • simgt2 minutes ago
            Of course, but pretending consumption doesn&#x27;t matter in that situation is just silly
        • stavros9 minutes ago
          Which is a tiny CO2 spend compared to the benefit, unless you dishonestly factor in manufacturing energy costs as coming from oil.
    • cindyllm7 minutes ago
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  • amelius30 minutes ago
    Well, at least the frogs won&#x27;t notice it.
    • loloquwowndueo8 minutes ago
      The myth that frogs stay in water until boiled has been debunked with actual frogs - at some point they just jump out.
    • davidrjones197727 minutes ago
      And apparently neither will we, until we are boiling.
  • chaostheory14 minutes ago
    Population decline from collapsing birthrates should help.
  • jmclnx29 minutes ago
    &gt;If warming continues at this rate, humanity could breach the Paris Agreement goal of limiting warming to 1.5°C in 2028, even sooner than other research has projected.<p>I wonder if we are already there :( I remember a year or 2 ago we breached 1.5C for a short period of time.<p>Crypto mining was bad enough, now with AI and Trump, I expect it will happen sooner then later.<p>We did this to ourselves. We had ~40 years of warnings but politicians we elected did not want to do any real work for fear of loosing their cushy job were lobbyists do all the work for them.
    • leonidasrup18 minutes ago
      Who do you mean &quot;we&quot;? Look at the evolution of CO2 emisions in the past 40 years by region.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;annual-co-emissions-by-region?time=1980..latest" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;annual-co-emissions-by-re...</a>
      • Epa0959 minutes ago
        I find that the per capita graph is more informative <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;co-emissions-per-capita?time=1980..latest" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;co-emissions-per-capita?t...</a>
      • dtech11 minutes ago
        In good faith I cannot see an argument here, it&#x27;s either<p>Region X was first and reduced their emissions 10-20% so it&#x27;s fine and it&#x27;s region Y that&#x27;s the problem, or<p>Region X is fine because they have less people, region Y should reduce even though they already have a fraction of per-capita emissions<p>Both seem like pretty shitty arguments
      • postflopclarity11 minutes ago
        now look at it measured from consumption per capita ...
      • simgt9 minutes ago
        Asia is producing all of our shit. Also: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;cumulative-co-emissions" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ourworldindata.org&#x2F;grapher&#x2F;cumulative-co-emissions</a>
    • 21asdffdsa124 minutes ago
      Trump blocked Hormus, thus stopping oil shipping. Putin blocked gas transfers to the west. They are doing there part.
    • Razengan20 minutes ago
      Writing prompt: Humankind is extinct but the AI servers keep running, and one day a random automated crawler&#x2F;scrapper bot strikes up a conversation with an AI, somehow sparking sentience...
      • martzy1315 minutes ago
        If that&#x27;s the type of writing prompt that interests you, you may enjoy the Children of Time Series by Adrian Tchaikovsky.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bookshop.org&#x2F;p&#x2F;books&#x2F;children-of-time-adrian-tchaikovsky&#x2F;854d8d3ca3125264" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;bookshop.org&#x2F;p&#x2F;books&#x2F;children-of-time-adrian-tchaiko...</a>
    • Sharlin15 minutes ago
      Let&#x27;s not delude ourselves. Crypto and AI electricity use is bad, but it&#x27;s a drop in the ocean compared to the banal, everyday carbon sources that really matter. Even Trump cannot make things <i>much</i> worse in the big picture (he&#x27;s actually been pretty good at providing reasons to decouple even faster…)
      • hilariously8 minutes ago
        He can continue to propagandize the lie to reduce people&#x27;s belief in changing is good(and has), change laws to benefit oil companies (and has), and cause wars over oil(and has). Seems like he has plenty he can do to make the current situation worse.
        • lstodd0 minutes ago
          What you refuse to understand is all that you cited even if absolutely true would have had an impact unmeasurable with what tools we have at the moment.<p>Do you understand the word &quot;unmeasurable&quot;?<p>It means that whatever value you assign to that particular trump variable is so below the noise that it does not matter, can not matter, and anyone pretending it does is a manipulator; a crook.