29 comments

  • cwizou48 minutes ago
    Oh wow, that&#x27;s seriously awesome. I did manage to reverse engineer the private screensaver `.appex` framework and make it work for Aerial 4 (I released a sample project&#x2F;documentation last week here alongside v4 for those who want : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;AerialScreensaver&#x2F;AppexSaverMinimal" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;AerialScreensaver&#x2F;AppexSaverMinimal</a>).<p>I also tried the same with Wallpaper appexes, the reversing seemed easy enough, but WallpaperAgent refused to load them, so I still use the classic trick of using my own window with a video player on top of the wallpaper, and below the icons.<p>I will have a look and check what I missed.
  • encore209713 hours ago
    Very neat. I was confused at first, I was like you can download the video screensavers.. why scrape the frames. Then I saw your comment and read I can use my own videos for desktop and lock screen. Great work! Dont bury the lede! A title with the hook of what and how would be super helpful!
  • fps-hero2 hours ago
    I find it weird today that we are still fascinated by video wall papers.<p>This was literally my first hack I did in high school in 2005. Doing something I’d never seen done before, a video wallpaper.<p>Step one, grab a handle to the video memory serving the wall paper. My “game trainer cheats” experience served me well. That was easy.<p>I had to figure out the hard way that per pixel calculations are extremely CPU taxing, the YUV to RGB video color space conversion. With a pirated Intel compiler I could get the naive blit into memory videy background working.<p>But then I wondered how other video apps were working so efficiently?<p>They used a GPU overlay! How it worked is you’d designate a color on your screen as the overlay color, and, when the screen was rendered, any pixel that was the overlay color was swapped with the full screen rendered video. I forget the specifics, it was some directX api. So, set the wallpaper to the hottest hot pink, run the renderer, and bobs your uncle, video wallpaper.<p>Everyone I showed this to was amazed, I really though I was on to something! Trouble was, I couldn’t get the damn thing to run on other people’s computers!<p>Little did I know or understand about the dreaded VCruntime redistributable. It wasn’t until 10 years later when I started working in industry I learned about “software distribution”. Linux makes it too easy, windows makes it too hard, static linking everything that isn’t network facing is probably the right approach.<p>I was so annoyed when Vista had the video wallpaper feature. “Man I was doing this years ago!”.
    • jbs7892 hours ago
      So in summary… it’s fun when you do it but “weird” when others do the same.<p>This is life. We discover things for ourselves, on our own time.
  • buildbot12 hours ago
    As much (fairly well deserved) hate as Tahoe gets, the video wallpapers and transparency are such a fun Windows Vista vibe I get nostalgia. Time to set this up with the Vista waterfall wallpaper and reallllyyy feel like it’s 2007!
    • _kb10 hours ago
      What do you mean Windows Vista &quot;nostalgia&quot;? That makes me feel a little long in the horn.
      • Springtime9 hours ago
        <i>&gt; That makes me feel a little long in the horn</i><p>I see what you did there :)
        • ChrisMarshallNY4 hours ago
          I attended the Longhorn event, where they played Director scripts, and told us it was “live code.”
      • harrouet2 hours ago
        Vista is what made me get my first Mac. I hope Apple does not make the same mistake.
      • geerlingguy10 hours ago
        There are likely a number of folks on this forum now who were born after Vista was released.
        • _kb9 hours ago
          Nope. 2007 is like 2 or 3 years ago, tops.
          • charcircuit5 hours ago
            Vista released over 19 years ago.
            • stavros5 hours ago
              You missed the joke.
              • charcircuit4 hours ago
                Being unable to know the current date or being unable to subtract two simple numbers is not funny. Encouraging such behavior will waste people&#x27;s time having to deal with people on this site who can&#x27;t do simple arithmetic. There are other websites where such cheap &quot;humor&quot; is more acceptable.
                • dspillett3 hours ago
                  <i>&gt; Encouraging such behavior will waste people&#x27;s time having to deal with people on this site who can&#x27;t do simple arithmetic.</i><p>We shouldn&#x27;t encourage people who can&#x27;t properly read and understand a comment before replying either, but here we are talking to you who jumped on correcting the “2 or 3 years” to “19 years” without noticing that “2007” was in the post so the poster was obviously well aware of that.<p><i>&gt; being unable to subtract two simple numbers is not funny</i><p>1. That is not the joke. It is referencing how humans experience the passage of time at massively different rates to the actual reality, especially as we age.<p>2. Humour is subjective. So is, to an extent, the amount of it that is acceptable in a given environment. Sense of humour is sometimes objectively non-existent, as you helpfully illustrate by clear example.
      • samat9 hours ago
        Still burned they did not ship winFS then
        • breppp7 hours ago
          Good thing it eventually grew to replace NTFS
      • ebbi10 hours ago
        guy_holding_shoulder.jpg
    • jermaustin11 hour ago
      My big problem with Tahoe, is the lock screen animation stutters and freezes CONSTANTLY. I&#x27;m on an M3 Pro. If I can watch 4K video with no dropped frames, a simple video background should work as well, and if it doesn&#x27;t, it shouldn&#x27;t exist.
    • asimovDev5 hours ago
      <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;windowswallpaper.miraheze.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Windows_Vista" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;windowswallpaper.miraheze.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Windows_Vista</a><p>which waterfall are you talking about? i am also surprised to see how many wallpapers were apparently available on Vista. All I remember is the default green gradient thingie and I think I had the bamboo forest on at some point
      • dspillett3 hours ago
        <i>&gt; All I remember is the default green gradient thingie and…</i><p>IIRC at that time users were split fairly completely into three types: those who customised their OS look a lot, sometimes spending far too much time on it (I was one of them back then), those who had developed a preferred look and just kept that as much as possible between OS changes, and those who just used the defaults and got on with whatever else. This means the other wallpaper that someone at MS put effort into collecting together hardly ever got seen: many users kept the one default, and almost all who didn&#x27;t had something that they chose from other sources. Maybe the other included images might have seen the light of day more often if there had been an explicit “choose your wallpaper” prompt as part of user on-boarding.
    • riddlemethat11 hours ago
      I’m imagining dozens of people worldwide sharing your nostalgia for Vista.
      • Gigachad10 hours ago
        It&#x27;s called frutiger aero now. Lot of people very bored with modern safe design nostalgic for when tech and UI was weird and bold.
        • voidUpdate5 hours ago
          The funniest thing about the &quot;frutiger aero&quot; thing is that it looks nothing like how I remember vista looking
          • Gigachad5 hours ago
            It’s the same idea but dialed up to 11. Apple’s Liquid Glass is a more restrained application of the style.
          • k4rnaj1k5 hours ago
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        • darkwater3 hours ago
          Let a sufficient amount of time pass, and what people knew in their children&#x2F;teenage years will be remembered with nostalgia.
      • zaps11 hours ago
        “Good old Vista. People give it a bad press but I’m never upgrading, why would I? It just feels like a good pair of jeans.”
    • wpm10 hours ago
      The moving wallpapers are near the first few times but I can&#x27;t turn it off. I had to dig deep into WallpaperKit (I mean really? It&#x27;s a friggin wallpaper) to find the static last frame of the wooshy moving BS.
  • postalcoder11 hours ago
    Wow, thank you for this. I&#x27;ve been working on a screensaver suite but LegacyScreenSaver is so janky. I was hoping someone would figure out apple&#x27;s private wallpaper framework and you did!
    • cwizou42 minutes ago
      As far as I can tell this is for WallpaperAgent, an extension to `com.apple.wallpaper` that are ran by WallpaperAgent on the desktop. For screensavers check my other post, I posted a sample the private screensaver api to bypass that.<p>Apple&#x27;s uses both for their own &quot;Aerials&quot; and they have a sync system to share the position between the screensaver player and the desktop player.
    • mikestaas10 hours ago
      OMG, LegacyScreenSaver is such a memory hog!
  • musicale10 hours ago
    Apple&#x27;s best video wallpaper is &quot;Macintosh&quot;. I am interested in how it works.
    • futhey10 hours ago
      Same! I distinctly remember seeing portions of this wallpaper that led me to believe it&#x27;s procedurally generated and not simply a collection of video files, and had to rewatch it to confirm. There are several points where the date and time match the system date and time down to the second.
      • fphilipe8 hours ago
        It features the current date and time with seconds, so it must be rendered on the fly.
        • troybetz8 hours ago
          The assets and some? of the scripting for it are in a bundle at:<p>&#x2F;System&#x2F;Library&#x2F;ExtensionKit&#x2F;Extensions&#x2F;WallpaperMacintoshExtension.appex<p>Can see the time and date being added here I think:<p>System6ControlPanel.program<p><pre><code> &#x2F;&#x2F; &#x2F;&#x2F; System 6 Control Panel &#x2F;&#x2F; Macintosh 40th Anniversary &#x2F;&#x2F; &#x2F;&#x2F; Copyright © 2024 Apple. All rights reserved. &#x2F;&#x2F; &#x2F;&#x2F;---------------------------------------------- start simultaneous scale out let image = &quot;System6ControlPanel&quot; ... ... add time at 267, 165 name &quot;Geneva12&quot; add date at 274, 239 name &quot;Geneva12&quot; end simultaneous</code></pre>
  • echelon_musk1 hour ago
    You&#x27;re not the first.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=45247396">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=45247396</a>
  • arkh4 hours ago
    Reminds me how windows 98 allowed using a HTML page as background. Said HTML could include videos.
    • somat2 hours ago
      And then there is X11, whatever program you want can be set to the root window.<p>Anyhow, on topic, that windows 98 active desktop was the most unstable part of an already shaky OS. First thing to turn off when installing a new system. I mean, it would still crash if you looked at it wrong. But at least it was not dying for the fun of it anymore.
  • tharropoulos3 hours ago
    Really nice work. We went down a similar rabbit hole recently and reverse engineered the Aerials catalogue to figure out how Apple wires this stuff up, so seeing another open source project doing this is great. The detail I love most and one I can&#x27;t replicate on our own tool is how the animation persists between the login window and the live desktop. We built phonto as a cross platform take on the same idea, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;museslabs&#x2F;phonto" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;museslabs&#x2F;phonto</a>. I was about to start writing an article on the whole reverse engineering process and this might be the nudge I needed to start working on it.
  • ellisd5 hours ago
    Amazing, can’t wait to try this out!<p>On a similar note, I’d love to replace Aerials on tvOS with my own videos. I have yet to figure out how to craft a working data feed that the tvOS will accept using the secret mode that I believe is used in the retail store displays.
  • wanoir12 hours ago
    So cool! This reminds me I wanted to try setting a custom video background with some footage i had. Didn’t even realize it wasn’t natively supported till i saw this!
    • kageroumado11 hours ago
      Thank you! I’m glad you like it
  • ventana6 hours ago
    Nice project, thank you for sharing!<p>Out of curiosity: how much did you need to steer Claude while working on this project, and how long did it have?<p>Asking partly because I see &quot;Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) &lt;noreply@anthropic.com&gt;&quot;, and partly because I keep hearing &quot;so what do you do with all these agents&quot;, and this is a good example of what people do with all these agents.
    • kageroumado6 hours ago
      Not much, Claude was trying different things on their own for hours. It was Opus 4.6, this public release was done by 4.7
  • kageroumado11 hours ago
    The app now has a landing page with a download link and you can also see my other projects: the largest one is Refrax browser, but I also have many other small utility apps!<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagerou.glass&#x2F;phosphene&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagerou.glass&#x2F;phosphene&#x2F;</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagerou.glass" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kagerou.glass</a>
    • ggrelet5 hours ago
      How did you bring up the page so quick? And what helped you design it?
      • blazarquasar4 hours ago
        It’s entirely designed by claude. Looks like every claude website out there.
      • divan4 hours ago
        And how did you style it like Anthropic design system? :D
    • sixeyes4 hours ago
      frieren spotted!<p>also, nice typography.
  • shideneyu5 hours ago
    Neat job. And that&#x27;s interesting to see how it works. I hope to see apple connectivity being reversed engineered too on day
  • dostick3 hours ago
    How did you steer Claude for strict concurrency, can you share the CLAUDE.md?
    • werdnapk2 hours ago
      Where did they say they used AI for this?
      • u_fucking_dork1 hour ago
        <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48219128">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=48219128</a>
  • p0w3n3d2 hours ago
    Wow that&#x27;s great work! Thanks!
  • mgaunard12 hours ago
    Are there specific video wallpaper sets I can download that leverage these features?
    • kageroumado12 hours ago
      You can use any website that lets you download video wallpapers, or you can make one yourself. Any video can be played
      • mgaunard6 hours ago
        well I&#x27;d specifically want one that&#x27;s well-designed to make use of the various features you pointed out: highlight battery level, thermals etc.
    • buildbot11 hours ago
      I vote the Vista wallpapers personally; feels just right.
  • ChrisMarshallNY12 hours ago
    Very cool!<p>However, it may definitely get broken by Apple, as you note.
    • kageroumado12 hours ago
      I don’t think they’ll touch this part anytime soon. It’s been unchanged for a few years now, they certainly have other priorities.
      • ChrisMarshallNY12 hours ago
        Good on ya.<p>I won&#x27;t use it, myself, because I can&#x27;t deal with wallpaper moving behind my work (I also can&#x27;t listen to music, while I work. Maybe it&#x27;s a &quot;generational&quot; thing). Also, I use a 49-inch ultrawide, so it might be vomit-inducing.<p>I remember some other utility that played wallpaper videos, but it wasn&#x27;t anywhere near as nicely done.
        • dylan60411 hours ago
          Which generation is that? I&#x27;m a Gen Xer. I can&#x27;t work without music, but specific music without lyrics for my brain to try to follow.
        • crimsontech3 hours ago
          It doesn&#x27;t move while you work, its just the lock screen and when you log in.
  • markdown11 hours ago
    These damned wallpapers gave me my worst experience with Apple. MacOS would delete them and redownload automatically over and over again, using almost a terrabyte of data per week.<p>And I wasn&#x27;t even using video wallpapers at the time.<p>Just discovered I had no internet 3 days into the month as my ISP had cut me off. Had to dig deep and spend hours I&#x27;ll never get back trying to find out where all the data was going.<p>Here&#x27;s a thread I just found now that shows others having similar issues: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;MacOS&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1ii38g8&#x2F;macbook_wallpaper_take_up_a_lot_of_space_cannot&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;MacOS&#x2F;comments&#x2F;1ii38g8&#x2F;macbook_wall...</a>
    • kageroumado11 hours ago
      This app injects itself directly into Apple’s actual pipeline, so your videos won’t get removed or changed. It’s not just an automated replacer of Apple’s own videos.
  • w-ll11 hours ago
    remember when windows had html wallpapers. brb gonaa agent something that i hope doenst supply chain my entire life
    • hunter2_9 hours ago
      The little IE4 widgets called &quot;active desktop&quot;?
      • throw3108226 hours ago
        You could set a full-screen, interactive browser page as the backdrop of your desktop. Not sure what communication it was allowed to have with the desktop events, but I always thought it was a clever hack that could have been explored and expanded further.
        • Novosell5 hours ago
          Making even the background run electron, eh?
        • sixeyes4 hours ago
          i remember setting a html with a flash file and it did track the cursor accurately for some fun effects. couldn&#x27;t keep it like that due to resource use but yeah, it was fun!<p>icons and text would get single-color backdrops though. no transparency back to the html
  • manuisin11 hours ago
    Woah, thank you! Just checking these will keep on working on the lock screen and as screen savers too?
    • kageroumado11 hours ago
      The video will keep playing on the lock screen, but screen savers are a different thing. You can have the same video as your wallpaper and screen saver though.
  • contingencies8 hours ago
    Suggested monetization strategy: porn.
    • amelius1 hour ago
      Much better than ads in every way, yes.
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  • nashashmi11 hours ago
    Title should be prefixed with show hn:
    • dang11 hours ago
      I had the same thought and just did that, and your comment was the next thing I saw :)
    • daemonologist11 hours ago
      I wonder about this when I see someone post their own work without the Show HN prefix - is it <i>always</i> supposed to be a Show? (Enforcement&#x2F;community objection to the lack thereof doesn&#x27;t seem to be very strenuous, if so. Or, maybe it gets fixed after a little while and I haven&#x27;t noticed.)
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