12 comments

  • chappi4238 minutes ago
    This article fails to mention GrapheneOS.<p>The article starts with Murena, Punkt, Volla which are all based on Android. If you do this, then imho you must mention GrapheneOS, the by far better option (updates, privacy, security, organisation).<p>Google Pixel with GrapheneOS is the best non-Google phone... ;-)
    • gib44411 minutes ago
      GrapheneOS requires a Google Pixel (currently) though. That&#x27;s why they omitted it I imagine
  • skc8 minutes ago
    Many years later and I&#x27;m still bitter that the tech press laughed Windows Phone out of the room straight to its demise. Yes it had very little developer support but at some point things were looking up. It was just the butt of too many jokes from influential people.<p>A third ecosystem right now would have been amazing
  • janvlug42 minutes ago
    I use a Librem5 Linux phone. With the default PureOS operating system.<p>Enjoy your freedom, break free from Google and Apple.<p>Have a full Linux computer in your pocket that you can also use for calling.<p>See also the discussion on this post: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mastodon.social&#x2F;@janvlug&#x2F;116504044251287290" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mastodon.social&#x2F;@janvlug&#x2F;116504044251287290</a>
  • pavlov1 hour ago
    Jolla still exists:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jolla.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jolla.com&#x2F;</a><p>They develop Sailfish, a non-Google Linux-based mobile OS that can apparently run Android apps decently in a sandbox.
    • ttkari13 minutes ago
      They are also less than 2 months away from the first deliveries of the Jolla Phone 2026, a new SailfishOS device they have designed and built from scratch. Over the past years the official Sailfish experience has largely been relying on Sony Open Device program - a co-operation which hasn&#x27;t always been very smooth for the customers.<p>I have been daily driving SFOS on a Sony Xperia 10 III for the past 3 years and it works well for me. I think the 10 III is the current &quot;peak Sailfish&quot; at least among the officially supported devices but this should change once the new phones roll out in early July. For new orders of the 2026 phone they are currently aiming for delivery in September in the supported markets (EU, UK, Norway and Switzerland).
  • sigmoid101 hour ago
    I really want to try one of these one day: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devices.ubuntu-touch.io&#x2F;promoted&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devices.ubuntu-touch.io&#x2F;promoted&#x2F;</a><p>But I haven&#x27;t dared yet because I kind of expect it will not be able to replace my current phone.
    • realusername34 minutes ago
      Ubuntu Touch was amazing, way ahead of Android and iOS when it came out, the touch gestures were so much better than what was available.<p>But then it&#x27;s just maintained by very few people nowadays and half abandoned.<p>You can buy a used Pixel 3a if you want to toy around with it, they cost nothing.
  • amelius1 hour ago
    Is anyone successfully running Android inside a container in Linux, for their daily apps?
  • anta401 hour ago
    So which one has the biggest chance to be Android&#x2F;iOS alternative?<p>Many many years ago, smarphone users had these choices:<p>Symbian, BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, PalmOS... what else?
    • ajdude32 minutes ago
      Windows phone still had the best ux of any smartphone, I just wish the ecosystem was there. To this day nothing even comes close to smart tiles.
  • smeggysmeg1 hour ago
    I moved to a Fairphone 6 with &#x2F;e&#x2F;OS a few weeks ago. I can do everything I need to, everything I want to, and with more control over my digital footprint and what data is being collected about me. I&#x27;ve completely moved off Google services.<p>The OS experience is pretty impressive for not being made by an evil megacorp. The hardware is fairly midrange, but midrange today is last year&#x27;s top end, and unless you&#x27;re some expert photographer or needing phone VR or whatever, it&#x27;s a great, normal smartphone experience.<p>I&#x27;m donating to the open source devs who make my apps, and they respond when I ask for useful features instead of always enshittifying it. For the corpo apps, it pulls from Google Play.
  • ElFitz26 minutes ago
    I looked at Punkt.<p>They keep saying &quot;If you don’t pay for the product, you are the product&quot;. Okay, all fine and well.<p>But what will my phone still actually be able to do if &#x2F; when I stop my subscription? Not a single clear answer besides &quot;[…] gradual feature deactivation, and ultimately reverting to a device running AOSP&quot;.<p>Doesn’t really inspire confidence.
  • trvz38 minutes ago
    &gt; But can I run my apps?<p>&gt; Well, probably, yes.<p>Even with &quot;probably&quot; as a qualifier, this is disingenuous.<p>Not even Android has caught up to the highest tier of apps available on iOS.
  • DeathArrow1 hour ago
    I usually buy either Xiaomi or Oppo phones and I am pretty happy.
    • vovavili1 hour ago
      Still a &quot;Google phone&quot; as per the definition of this article. They&#x27;re looking for Linux-based non-Android phones.
    • retired1 hour ago
      Are Xiaomi phones still legal in the EU with their proprietary chargers? All phones need to have USB-C and USB-PD now.
      • dobladov1 hour ago
        Which proprietary charger? I always had Xiaomi phones and they always use USB ports.
        • retired1 hour ago
          Xiaomi uses a proprietary charging protocol, I believe it is called Hypercharge. It also requires a proprietary cable with an extra pin&#x2F;chip.
          • nguyenkien20 minutes ago
            You can charge it just fine with regular usb-c charger. So not a problem.
          • dobladov58 minutes ago
            Looks like they opened the protocol, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;new.c.mi.com&#x2F;global&#x2F;post&#x2F;1895204" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;new.c.mi.com&#x2F;global&#x2F;post&#x2F;1895204</a><p>Also, it&#x27;s only for fast charging, you can use any other charger or wire without an issue.
      • surgical_fire10 minutes ago
        The wife has a Xiaomi phone, we live in EU.<p>It was sold normally as any other cellphone.
  • bekon36 minutes ago
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